but vp smells soo good hahaha

 

they make stuff to put in your gas to make it smell like almost anything, buy that lol

 

We used MR11 Fuel for vegas and they woke the bikes up pretty good,, I am going to get some MR9 and try that (Which is a better fuel IMO)

 

i usally run gas that spent a winter outside it helps win races haha

 

I run air plane fuel in my moped.



Seriously tho, we have ran 89 octane (pump gas) in our 124+R and also Torco in it too, theres no noticable difference in power.

 

i run VP u4.2 in my big bikes and it just seems like it runs smother....ill try it in my mini soon as i get my BBK

 

we tried once avgas instead of our 98...only difference was that the muffler stays clean..thats all!

 

it burns cleaner wich means it lasts longer, Try timing how long it takes to burn off pump fuel, And then the racing fuel. Ull get more riding time with the race fuel.. Thats all i ever noticed..

 

Mr9 is the shizzz

 

If you have a way of increasing timing and/or compression for your increased octane then you are going to be increasing hp. No carbon buildup on parts from using leaded fuels will not add hp, but it will keep your hp from decreasing as much over time.

 

well ..its waaaay overrated..if you are a mediocre rider you won't win a race because of racefuel...if you are good, you will win anyway , even on pumpgas...:biglaugh:

 

i though race fuel was for crazy CR like 14:1 or 20:1.

 

in my old yfz450 i ran pump gas premium from shell for one tank rode and ran like complete garbage i got a can of U4 from vp and it woke that motor up

it also had a mad port and polished head ported intake

13.5:1 comp piston and a whole bunch more but it helped it run smoother and not choppy and realli poping and everything

 

Forwarding info on what we've tested



CYL.cc 89/93 Oct.

50-80 ..........15:1

100-125 ........13.8:1

175-200.........13:1

250 ............12:1

350 ............11.8

500 ............11.5:1





95/100 Oct.

50-80 ...... 15.5:1

100-125..... 14.3:1

175-200...... 13.5:1

250...... 12.5:1

350...... 12.2:1

500...... 11.8:1





104/110 Oct.

50-80 ..... 16:1

100-125 ..... 15:1

175-200..... 14:1

250..... 13:1

350..... 12.5:1

500..... 12:1







114/120 Oct.

50-80......... 17:1

100-125......... 15.7:1

175-200......... 14.7:1

250......... 14:1

350....... 13:1

500......... 13:1





Methanol

50-80........ 19:1

100-125...... 18:1

175-200...... 16.5:1

250........ 15.7:1

350........ 15:1

500........ 15:1



Many times you can mix up 50-50% blend of Premium Pump gas with Race gas and cover the detonation problem while increasing HP.

If you run a High Compression, detonation prone engine then you will need to use a higher Octane gas to cover problem, but again only enough higher to cover detonation. If this engine needs 110 Octane gas then use that, don't run 120 Octane and think the HP will go up, it won't, you will pay more and get less.





H.P. gains made by Compression Ratio's over 15.5-16/1 are usually lost to

mechanical and friction drag pressures created by higher compression !



Gene

 

i though race fuel was for crazy CR like 14:1 or 20:1.

20:1?! You rocking a new micro diesel?!

 

I just started playing with the china knock offs.but as far as vp and klots ect.I run heavy mod drag sleds my 1010 cat with nos needs 114 on nos and 100 with no nos.when dyno with no nos and the 114 I will loose 14 HP over running the 100 octane. but will melt down with any thing less than 114 for 660 runs on nos you can run 112 but can't hit the spray untill your well off the line.I have tryed running 114 on a stock 700 crossfire on the dyno and it makes 139 hp on 87 octane abouy 137hp on 92 and less than 130 on 114octane all 2 strokes .lower octane meens wider flash piont .high octane will olny burn for a short burst but faster .if you dont have the comp or timming you are blowing cash and hp out the pipe.ps the 1010 with nos is over 230hp

 

20:1?! You rocking a new micro diesel?!

hahaha i figured some one might say something. running 13.5:1 in your yfz with pump gas can could have caused pinging the CR will cause the gas to ignite before the spark plug dose. some variable timing engines were able to run pump with much high CR than 11.5.

 

avgas is designed for long stints of high rpm. wont really help a dirtbike out

 

So wrong. Do you even know what kind of RPM's a Lycoming or Continental run? I do, I fly for a living. In the PA31 I fly, we are limited to 2575 RPM's for 3 minutes, and 2400 continuous. Is that high RPM's? Not exactly. The reason for the high octane is the exact opposite of what you are saying. With the amount of power, and the large bore, cylinder pressures are usually high. Add a turbo charger that produces nearly twice the amount of atmospheric pressure (sometime I see nearly 50" of manifold pressure of take off), with no intercooler (to complex/takes up too much space) and the potential for detonation is HUGE! And the only reason the lead is in there is to help cushion detonation if it does happen.



Here are a few picturs from my FB page.

Edit to add. I found a pic of the center stack/avionics. Look at the tach and MP gauges. This picture was taken on the ground, not running. Notice the MP gauge reads atmospheric pressure.

 

i ran "pro racing fuels" in my kx250f and i can notice a huge difference, no joke it pulls alot more and i can run a gear up in the corners

 

avgas is designed for long stints of high rpm. wont really help a dirtbike out

Its also a dry fuel made to be used high up in the sky. If you use it often and dont add marvels mystery oil or somthing of that sort, It will burn up you cylinder. Friends banshee had it happen as it was bone stock and he thought avgas would bump it up.



I run 91 mixed with regular stock car race gas mixed 50/50. When i ran full race fuel it would have a weird RPM curve, But mixed it pulls hard through all gears on my mini or XR600R. I know its not needed, But keeps the carbon from build up. If you have parts that are always clean and wont rob HP, Im just keeping it where it was new and havnt had a problem yet.

 

also, at least around here that is shell's premium is 91 oct our BPs premium is 93 wich i will be buying more for my new engine at 11.5:1.



also check this CR machine

 

My opinion is that most of us aren't fast enough to begin with so don't waste your money.

 

I like running a 50/50 mix in my pit bikes they always seemed to run cleaner and smoother.If I run higher than 87 in my street bike it runs worse and always backfires on decelleration.

 

I have a stock crf 150rb. the manual says to run no less than 91 octane. I know some run race fuel in them and I was wondering if anyone knew if it helped or was just a waste.

 

I like running a 50/50 mix in my pit bikes they always seemed to run cleaner and smoother.If I run higher than 87 in my street bike it runs worse and always backfires on decelleration.

Same on my 250f. If i run anything below 91 it backfires.