I own a blue one in ok excellent condition. Only thing is I am struggling to get a rear mudguard for less than £140. Never regretted it though. They really are the greatest bike in the world. Email me at shanemckinney@hotmail.co.uk cause i'm not on here often.

 

Who would buy a chinese copy? The only reason people want one is because they are honda, and have pedigree. That doesn't look like it would be fun to ride, no suspention, tiny wheels, slow motor.

 

Not the greatest to ride but once you see other peoples faces you can't stop smiling yourself. I guess the best thing is that you know you own a piece of Honda history that is 4 times older than you.

 

First off, I know that the CZ100 was never imported to the US. Why do they command such a high price? I would love to have one in any condition but have a problem with the price tag. Were production numbers very low for the CZ100? If people are paying these prices why doesn't any of the chinese companies start reproducing these bikes? It is obvioes that there would be a profitable market fo them.

They are one of the most collectable Honda's of all time only second to the Original CR110's.



Secondly, there is a company in Japan who made copy frames and forks and it caused a ton of problems in the collector community.



The early CZ100's didn't have a VIN on the frame and nobody could tell the difference between the copy frames and the original frames. This caused early fully restored bikes to be worth much less than nice originals. Still are today. Later model CZ100's had serial numbers.



When it comes to the classics, the chinese copies are not well received. Both the Z50M and CZ100 are fun to own and look at, but are not great riders. They are desireable due to their history and design, not for their functionality.



The chinese can mess with the dirtbikes all they want, but when it comes to the classics, they need to look elsewhere.

 

Sadly my cz100 doesn't have the VIN number and I was one of the ones to kick up a fuss about it. I have a 1963 very early one and wasn't to happy when I didn't see the VIN. I thought it was fake so I did research and got proof that it was the original as it was bought in 1970 by a friend of mine but I can see that this would be very hard to explain to a potential buyer. I'm thinking the same thing happened on the Z50M cause mine doesn't have a VIN number either, unless its hiding under all of the layers of tractor paint that it was painted with.

 

Sadly my cz100 doesn't have the VIN number and I was one of the ones to kick up a fuss about it. I have a 1963 very early one and wasn't to happy when I didn't see the VIN. I thought it was fake so I did research and got proof that it was the original as it was bought in 1970 by a friend of mine but I can see that this would be very hard to explain to a potential buyer. I'm thinking the same thing happened on the Z50M cause mine doesn't have a VIN number either, unless its hiding under all of the layers of tractor paint that it was painted with.

Most people don't know about the serial number thing for the CZ100's. Don't sweat it.



Most people don't know the 1961 Z100 was imported into the USA until they were all recalled and sent back to Japan due to broken frames. The units used at Tama Tech with headlamps and taillamps were the recalled US rejects, as the ones built specifically for Tama Tech weren't built with lighting of any kind.

 

How do you know these things?

 

I saw a cz100 that wasn't 100% original just went for $20,000 U.S. Dollars on a Japanese online auction



http://translate.google.com/transla...ate?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e105030083

 

 

I know someone with a CZ100, it is not a very big man but what does a cz look small under him.

(And the engine is not that strong powerwise either, saw him riding the cz at visé 2010)

 

I just love the look of it. Throw some 8" aluminum wheels on it man so awesome.

 

I just love the look of it. Throw some 8" aluminum wheels on it man so awesome.

Like this?

 

How do you know these things?

Planet Minis - Planetminis Magazine Current Issue



Page 40. I wrote the article.

 

Like this?

That bike is sick! I love the dry clutch and the Akrapovic R6 exhaust that was adapted to fit. bet it sounds incredible

 

They are one of the most collectable Honda's of all time only second to the Original CR110's.



Secondly, there is a company in Japan who made copy frames and forks and it caused a ton of problems in the collector community.



The early CZ100's didn't have a VIN on the frame and nobody could tell the difference between the copy frames and the original frames. This caused early fully restored bikes to be worth much less than nice originals. Still are today. Later model CZ100's had serial numbers.



When it comes to the classics, the chinese copies are not well received. Both the Z50M and CZ100 are fun to own and look at, but are not great riders. They are desireable due to their history and design, not for their functionality.



The chinese can mess with the dirtbikes all they want, but when it comes to the classics, they need to look elsewhere.

Z you cant forget the RC hondas. Hands down I think the RC116 was the most amazing piece of technology/engineering that ever came from honda, atleast at that time. I think the best quote I have ever read was "The 1966 RC116 Power output is 16 bhp at 21,500 rpm. This means 320 bhp per litre and a Pme of nearly 16 kg/cm2 ! As regards bhp per litre, this is a figure that has never been surpassed by any naturally aspirated four stroke engine, and even today's formula 1 cars with their special fuel brews cannot hold a candle to it." Kinda crazy considering this was in 1966.



RC116

Sorry to thread jack a little bit, still fits in cool history, 16bhp out of 49.77cc's is just absolutely amazing.

 

That bike is sick! I love the dry clutch and the Akrapovic R6 exhaust that was adapted to fit. bet it sounds incredible

Awesome FCR carb, I wonder how hard it is to jet one of those.

 

That bike is nuts how hard is it to find frame tank an forks for one of these?

 

Z you cant forget the RC hondas. Hands down I think the RC116 was the most amazing piece of technology/engineering that ever came from honda, atleast at that time. I think the best quote I have ever read was "The 1966 RC116 Power output is 16 bhp at 21,500 rpm. This means 320 bhp per litre and a Pme of nearly 16 kg/cm2 ! As regards bhp per litre, this is a figure that has never been surpassed by any naturally aspirated four stroke engine, and even today's formula 1 cars with their special fuel brews cannot hold a candle to it." Kinda crazy considering this was in 1966.



RC116

Sorry to thread jack a little bit, still fits in cool history, 16bhp out of 49.77cc's is just absolutely amazing.

I feel the same way about the RC as you do. The RC116 was the king of 50cc racers. Don't forget about the 9 speed trans capable of over 100mph.

I recall a guy on here not long ago who found a CZ100 and didn't know too much about it, I'd sure like to be him. I found a picture of his, hopefully he'll chime in.

 

I recall a guy on here not long ago who found a CZ100 and didn't know too much about it, I'd sure like to be him.

I wouldn't want to be him unless he got one heck of deal. It must be impossible to source parts and IF you find them I'm sure they are overpriced. Then you can barely stand to ride the thing for fear of wrecking it or some other mishap / road damage, not to mention the suspension-less frame. They are cool to look at and all, but my eye is always drawn to the tank, not unlike a Gorilla tank IMHO. Why not just put a tank like that on something you would actually ride and enjoy riding?

 

I feel the same way about the RC as you do. The RC116 was the king of 50cc racers. Don't forget about the 9 speed trans capable of over 100mph.

I recall a guy on here not long ago who found a CZ100 and didn't know too much about it, I'd sure like to be him. I found a picture of his, hopefully he'll chime in.

I wonder what year what CZ100 that is, I'v never seen one with the wishbone front suspension like that, all the ones I have seen run the rigid set up. I dunno about the last comment saying he wouldnt want to be that guy, even if its a heap your super lucky to have that heap of junk.



As for the sweet 50cc stuff i thought bridgestones 50cc bike had some crazy engineering too, I think it had like a 15 or 16 speed tranny, My foot would get tired and I definitly would forget what gear I was in haha.

 

Someone added that to the front end of that bike.

 

230 kph? Holy!

 

Yes thats my junk...and yes parts are very hard to find.....I finally found a set of original forks in France...

and have found a few NOS parts....I hope to be posting pictures soon....

 

CZ100 parts are easy to find. Parts at a good price for the CZ100 are the impossible part.



The parts prices are outrageous!

 

I hope to post up some pictures here soon........

its came a long way from day 1 I brought it home...

 

hope to have more this week,,,,