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Heidenau Motard Tire review (no pics yet)

4.8K views 54 replies 18 participants last post by  stik__boy  
#1 ·
Ok, I was one of the lucky people to get in on a buy of the Heienau K61's that were being brought over from Germany recently. I decided that since these were going on my oversize wheels, that I could do more of what I wanted in terms of tire size. I chose to go with a 120/70-10 Rear and 100/80-10 Front to keep the profile about the same and get the F/R width combination that I wanted (I didnt want the front tire to end up taller than the rear because of the difference in wheel width). I was looking to get the maximum utilization of width (and fit in the forks, as well as between the swingarm), without ending up pullling the bead in too much and keeping a low profile.



Well, I did not get a lot of track time but here are my thoughts... It was sunny and about 80 deg. in Apple Valley, CA at the Grange on Sunday (PM ride day). Once I finally got on the track I scrubbed in the tires for a couple laps (if you are new to motard.... dont try to rail the turns your first lap on new tires). Once they were scuffed, I figured that I could push it a bit. I had some track experience on my Yamaha R1 so I have a good idea of the limits of adhesion... and I will say that these tires are UNBELIEVABLE. I did not have one hint of slippage, insecurity or other. I dont know if I have ever felt so confident on a set of tires (they were like riding a new set of Pirelli Supercorsas on my R1). There is a turn (3 I think) at the end of a straightaway that is a bit off camber and I was at the point where with a slight brake to setup it was a throttle-on drive through the turn as fast as I was willing to go. I believe that the Heidenaus are the only M-rated 10" tire you can get (81mph) and I really hope they start getting imported, because I will become a tire reseller for these. They are the best thing going.



I will put up pics of the wear pattern on my tires as soon as I get mine or my wifes camera working properly.



I hope this was helpful to anyone contemplating tires.

~E
 
#2 ·
The 3.5X10 and smaller 10" sizes are J rated. All the tire sizes larger then 3.5X10 are indeed M rated. Here's pictures of the 120/70/10's on my beater CT70.



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Once my new chain comes in from some slow-ass vendor, I can get this bike on the road..
 
#4 ·
Yeah what a POS beater :D



Do they come in 3.00 x 10" or comparable sizes for stock rims?



What speed is J rated for?



My Pirelli SL26s in 3.00 and 3.50 have a perfect wear pattern, scrubbed to the edge with nice rubber boogers. Too bad they slip when really pushed......
 
#5 ·
90/90 - 10 50J TL K61

3.50 - 10 59J Rf. TL K61

130/90 - 10 61J TL K61

130/70 - 10 62M Rf. TL K61

120/90 - 10 66M TL K61

120/70 - 10 54M Rf. TL K61

110/80 - 10 63M Rf. TL K61

100/90 - 10 61M Rf. TL K61

100/80 - 10 58M Rf. TL K61



There's your size choices for the Heidenaus. 90/90/10 is the smallest they make, and I find the tires run a tad small to begin with. Factory Motorsports can give you the heads up on how they fit on a stock CRF50.
 
#11 ·
Don't know what tires they reviewed there, but these tires are not hard and are very sticky. In fact, Mad Maxla in Germany uses these tires on their 120+mph on their highly modified ZB50 (450cc Husky motor) without any problems and recommends them.



Realize Heidenau makes 30 different styles of tires and if you ask anyone oveseas, the best tires available in 10" sizes are the following:



Heidenau K61's

Metzler ME 7 Teens

Dunlop TT91's



In no particular order. Metzler doesn't import the ME 7 Teens into the USA and has no plans to in the future, as they feel there isn't enough demand.



Plus, I think Erik is more then reputable on testing tires. Other good riders are also testing and will also give a favorable response once they have more time on them.
 
#12 ·
well I just ordered 4 of these Heidenau K61 tires so we will see how good they will work for me anyone wanna buy a set as theres 4 90/90/10 on the way to me with maybe 1 dozen a couple of days behind them if things go right but ya 4 just shipped
 
#15 ·
hey P3 i will take 2 of those 90x90x10 from you-- i saw them on erics bike @ grange-- killer tread pattern-- just let me know when to pay!! BRAD
 
#16 ·
Here's Eriks bike with the Heidenau's.



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#17 ·
i agree, i touched these tires last weekend, and they are sticky soft, even a little softer than a tt91-- :D i just had a 2 sets of tt91s dropped off by ups as i was typing this message-- ironic--- well better go put on a new set of tires for the race this weekend!!!!
 
#18 ·
SL26 tire wear from Grange, 70 lb rider moving pretty quick......



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These tires have 7 races on them at Grange and about 7 practices at Amago.
 
#19 ·
Heh, I should get some pics of my Dunlop TT91's from the last day of racing. The track was FAR warmer than anyone was expecting with the cool air temps. I was running 16psi front and rear, and was thinking I should go lower as I kept loosing the back on the hairpin...



Got back to the pits, both my front and rear were SHREDDED. It looked like my tire was designed to have peeloffs the way the rubber was coming off.
 
#23 ·
they are super hard to get, and costly..... stay posted im sure more info will arise soon!!!
 
#24 ·
You guys are running some low pressures in those tires. I use to run 15-1 6 lbs...then I bumped it up to 23-25 Cold. The Pirelli SL26's are soooo much better now. I always had a problem with them sliding around turns...More air pressure was the solution. I think I will go with Dunlops next unless somebody imports the Hendoooo's again soon.
 
#26 ·
ryan2282 said:
Same with me. the tire would roll in the corners when there wasnt enough air to hold the sidewall now im running about 23-24 and it never slides.


I run between 18-21psi generally.



The answer to your sidewalls rolling in on you.... wider wheels. :D