hhmmm funny..ya can go to the Pitster wbsite and it will let ya order their 90....am I missing sumn

 

hhmmm funny..ya can go to the Pitster wbsite and it will let ya order their 90....am I missing sumn

The OEM's are playing it safe and are pulling all stock. Under the law, it's illegal to sell any youth pitbike or ATV (or product marketed towards children under 12) due to the amount of lead in some of the engine castings as well as batteries and some of the electrical connectors.



I think the regs will get changed and the OEM's will be able to resume sales at a later date, but you can bet your boots they are protecting themselves until the regs can be changed. Each bike sale or potential sale of said parts would constitute an $1850 fine for each violation and could cost companies millions of $$.



I can't speak for companies who continue to sell similiar products other then they are running the risk of large fines should the CPSC pursue them.



Again, I think the laws will change and the Pitbike community will get an exemption, but it may be weeks to months before this happens.

 

well lets all hope that it is quick...I wonder if the law makers will try to ban kids 12 and under from riding what they currently have.......ya know will they impose fines on tracks that allow kids to race

 

Here's another Honda Letter sent to dealers I found online that explains why the OEM's are pulling their youth dirtbikes and ATV's.

January 23, 2009

Dear Honda Dealer:

On August 14, 2008, Congress enacted the​

Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008

(CPSIA or Act). The Act was primarily in reaction to the recent influx of lead-tainted toys that

resulted in numerous recalls and significant public outcry for more stringent government standards.

The CPSIA requires manufacturers of “Children’s Products,” defined as those products designed or

intended primarily for children 12 years of age or younger, to meet increasingly stringent lead paint

and lead content standards and to certify, based on third party testing, that the products meet the Act’s

requirements. Products that fail to comply with the prescribed lead limits are considered a “banned

hazardous substance” and cannot be sold or offered for sale. Violation of the prescribed limits

(initial limits detailed below) can result in severe civil and criminal penalties.

Ban of lead in paint over 600ppm (parts per million)​

Honda’s paint contains little or no lead and easily complies with even the most stringent

requirement.​

Ban of lead in substrate material over 600ppm​

Honda is still in process of completing tests on all of the materials used in our small ATV’s

and motorcycles; however, some alloy materials commonly used to manufacture motor

vehicles may inherently contain levels of lead that are (or ultimately will be) above the

current, or future more aggressive, limits set forth in the Act.

Honda and other members of the Motorcycle Industry Council and Specialty Vehicle Institute of

America, which face the same issues as Honda, are actively working to exempt the alloy parts for

small motorcycles and ATVs from the terms of the Act. The lead embedded in the alloys used in

these products is not transferred through typical use of these products. Our shared belief is that

Congress never intended the lead content provisions of the Act, which originally were aimed at toys

that can be mouthed by children, to be applicable to small ATVs and motorcycles.

Even more concerning is that the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), the agency charged

with enforcing the Act, recently ruled that Congress intended the lead content regulations to be

retroactive. This means that, regardless of its date of manufacture or the fact that it complied with all

applicable laws and regulations at the date of manufacture, any children’s product manufactured with

even a single component part containing lead in excess of the limits will no longer be legal for sale as

of February 10, 2009. The economic impact of the CPSC’s ruling will be substantial for both dealers

and manufacturers in an already weakened economy.​

What all of this means to you is that – without Congressional or CPSC action -- you will not be

able to sell new or used TRX 90, CRF 50F, CRF 70F, or CRF 80F models after February 10,

2009,​

​

stranding your investment in your new and used inventory. In fact, under the terms of the Act

you cannot even display these models on your showroom floor, distribute brochures, or advertise​

them on your website.

 

so basicly, oem can't sell their parts as of right now but companies such as bbr, two bros, red baron, ect... can still sell after market parts?

 

I think I understand what's going on but could you sum all this up in a few words?

 

I think I understand what's going on but could you sum all this up in a few words?

The government doesn't trust you to take care of your own kids.

 

The government doesn't trust you to take care of your own kids.

I didn't even know I had a kid... Maybe there right. Just kidding. This is crazy. So why can some companies sell parts and bikes and others cant?

 

Most pitbike company's products are aimed twords adults so they are not affected with the ban. Also most aftermarket parts meet the lead standards. Honda and others are just taking extra caution as some parts don't meet the lead requirements.

 

Why dont they focus some of this energy on why gas still costs so much compared to the price of oil falling through the floor. Pisses me off to no end!

 

good thing i just put all new stuff on my bike..hopefully by the time they wear out this crap is over..what a dumb idea what kid is gonna eat a piece of their bike and get lead poisoning??arent there other dangers about a bike that are much more likely to happen..i didnt even believe it till i went on all the major bike companies websites and the minis are gone..

 

How does this effect pister ,ssr ect.?(dealers)

 

here it is..i had it in the other thread that got closed.(sorry mods didnt know there were so many) Off-Road - Kawasaki.com

 

How does this effect pister ,ssr ect.?(dealers)

i was wondering that too..maybe it can benefit them if they are the only ones left..

 

huge party in utah ?

 

answer to my own question pister says there fine (labled there product for 12yrs and older)

 

How does this effect pister ,ssr ect.?(dealers)

i called them today and asked them. they said it dose not effect them because there products are made for adults

 

answer to my own question pister says there fine (labled there product for 12yrs and older)

I'm not going to single out any pitbike manufacturer here but it's a retroactive ban and not just for products produced recently. You can't just add a decal and change your marketing material and think everything will be peachy until pitbike market gets an exemption.



Companies can do whatever they see fit based upon their own situation, but adding a label and a disclaimer on marketing material in the eyes of the CPSC won't hold any merit if companies are pursued.



Again, I'm confident the pitbike market will get an exemption on this youth lead ban, but at this point, nobody knows when the exemption is going to take place.



Individuals shouldn't be affected.



As a kid, I remember toys were recalled all the time. People were asked to turn them in, but if you didn't, you wouldn't be breaking the law. I still have my Riveton that my kids play with but apparently some small kids ate and choked on the rubber rivets and died. I merely told my kids when they play with my old toys, don't eat them.

 

that kawasaki page really shows how serious the oem's are



if any child somehow eats a shifter, case half, brake rod, handlebar, fork spring, valve spring retainer, 2nd gear, hub, peg mount, etc etc, they have other problems

 

help i just ate a klx110 right side case half and now i can't POO help me

US government help.













































first ban of three wheelers.

second seat belt law passes.

third helmet law passes.

now ban of pit bikes.

no wonder the US is in trouble ..............

 

help i just ate a klx110 right side case half and now i can't POO help me

US government help.



first ban of three wheelers.

second seat belt law passes.

third helmet law passes.

now ban of pit bikes.

no wonder the US is in trouble ..............

I'm never getting rid of my 3 wheeler and plan to get more.

 

i ate lead paint when i was a kid and i am ok. well i think i am ok . what are we talking about ?

 

I remember when I was a kid, me and my buddies would go out with our pellet guns shooting just about anything we seen, mouth FULL of pellets (no other place to hold them with shorts on), and I am fine (I think).



I can understand the Govt's concern about our kids (Great), but they have zero commen sense. I do not think there is a kid out there that would try eating, or even licking their damn bike! I would have figured that they would have outlawed them for the safety factor before this? Maybe that is SOMEBODY'S goal all along, and this was a loopholed way to get rid of motorcycles for kids? That'sd it, this is all a conspiracy!

 

this is the dumbest thing i have ever herd of. i just call a local honda dealer and they said that they are not aloud to sell the trx90s and crf50s.

 

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first ban of three wheelers.





I don't think this will be like the three wheelers though as eventually honda will make the parts with less lead content or the law will be revised. With the three wheelers they were outlawed because of the product safety not because they didn't meet a universal regulation.