Wow, that is really cool. Especially as it seems they have a finished product they are happy with. 500 might sound like a lot to them, but they are looking at a worldwide market, not just a few riders in their local area. It would be interesting to know how many CRF 110 swingarms, dampening rods, bar kits etc they have sold, as all you ever read is that those products are on backorder, and they would be having those made in large quantities as well.

 

I'm willing to buy one yesterday if they can keep the price competitive.

 

I am pretty sure that lots of us on here would love to have a bolt on manual kit. Especially if it was at a reasonable price (200-300) but I am not going to hold my breath on that one. It can be done just have to talk to the right people, and have the $ ready to play...

R.R.N.S. - Rail Ruts Not S!u+s

 

I don't need one but I will buy one just to help with the numbers.

 

Yup can't help myself have to add my 2 cents here.....

Do most guys want a manual clutch?....to answer that question bold and to the point HELL YEA! I stop counting after 100 but I have done well over 100 crf110's all but literally 1 guy has wanted a manual clutch. So one would think there's a huge demand for them right? Well answer is yes and no. Every one wants one but no one wants to pay for one. And $$ is what makes dreams reality. I had a hand full of kamigawa manual clutch kits. I had them shortly after the crf110 was released send literally just sold the last one a few weeks ago. So It took me over a year to sell to sell a handful I can't even begin to think about having to sell 500 of them. So I can sympathize with bbr on being reluctant to make the plunge on 500. So about now someone would say we'll if they made it affordable guys would buy. So let's check boards here
Kamigawa basic kit: which all this kit is a cover gasket and cable that's it. Which I dunno about you boys but if I'm buying a clutch I want it to actually provide more than just a hand clutch. Can't speak for the bbr kit but the Tb 132 kit, big valves, carb/mani kit, exhaust, cam grind, porting and bbr cdi box will yield 3 times the factory output. By giving guys the ability to hammer the factory clutch by being being a manual and not beefing up surface area as well as clamping pressure Is a recipe for cooked clutches. But at any rate

kamigawa basic $400.00

Takegawa http://www.minimobracing.com/store/...8_106/p730/Takegawa-Manual-Clutch-for-Stock-Mainshaft---CRF50/product_info.html $700.00

So I would predict at 500 units and bbr to make a few bucks it would be priced at 400-500 big ones. Wanna get bbrs attention come up with a way to get 250 guys to put a non refundable deposit down on a clutch if bbr would produce a clutch then they will give you a look. A 1000 guys can type I want one but when it comes down to the nitty gritty how many of those keyboard warriors will nut up and pay for it? Just my 2 cents

 

If your he'll bent on a manual clutch here's the home brew how to http://planetminis.com/forums/honda-crf110/199312-crf110-manual-clutch-how.html

 

Very valid points guys, just trying to get some buzz going to hopefully make it happen for BBR. I've read through that thread storminnorman and I don't have the time or patience for something like that. I'd like a bolt-on kit that looks factory, just like what BBR has done in their prototype. I also like supporting US companies because there's too many Chinese overtaking this country.

 

Very valid points guys, just trying to get some buzz going to hopefully make it happen for BBR. I've read through that thread storminnorman and I don't have the time or patience for something like that. I'd like a bolt-on kit that looks factory, just like what BBR has done in their prototype. I also like supporting US companies because there's too many Chinese overtaking this country.
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Agreed not bolt bolt on but end results look like bbrs you have posted

difference is this one's black instead of gun metal grey. Which black is the factory color of the wave 100 which is the same engine as the crf110.

While I can definitely appreciate wanting to buy US stuff I don't think you understand. if bbr produces that clutch at what guys consider a "decent" it will 100% be outsourced my guess it will hail from tiawan. I'm 99.9% positive after reading the repost of what bbr told you about the clutch it will be outsourced. The general trends Is US guys engineer/design, prototype and test. Upon getting a good solid piece a sample gets sent to the mother land to be mass produced to keep total cost down of the piece. So what I'm getting at here is will you be buying an American engineered clucth?....yup. will you buying from an American company?.....yup. will it be made here in the good olé U-S of A?.......nope still will be supporting tiawan there. Just so everything is clear I'm not trying to be a dick about my statements just giving you the cold hard truth. I would love for a mass produced manual clutch to come out. Probably more than most cause I specialize in exotic one of high hp builds. I have a 175cc 31mm titanium valve 25 mm titanium valve crf110 monster I built. Lots of guys want to do the same to their crf110 until I tell them stock clutch absolutely will not tolerate that kind of power. If a clutch kit similar/same to what I have been doing was mass produced there would be more 175cc/180cc crf110's out there. So believe me I want it just as bad as the next guy does. These type of threads just get me a Lil worked up cause a bunch of guys will post and say ya ya ya ya but when it comes time to fork over $$$$$$ it's no no no no. So this then translate into companies like bbr Tb etc very cautious what they bring out.

 

I'll take 3 kits. I think they would sell all 500 worldwide.

 

i need one

 

BBR Shut up and take my money, I need 2 kits.

 

:biggthumpup:

 

Noone else?

 

The crickets?! Just not enough guys with crfs and free money for all the cool parts

R.R.N.S. - Rail Ruts Not S!u+s

 

You sir, are the MAN! Awesome to hear. If I had a crf I would be praising you hahaha

 

You're the man storminnorman! I'm interested to see how it all works out.

 

There's no doubt in my mind I can make it work. The big question is can I do so and keep it within 500-550 bucks. As of right now with guessing on shipping prices total in parts alone is right around the 400 marker. I'm pretty certain the mech on the slave I will use won't be right for the crf. So that means I'll have to machine a new one the tailors to the crf setup which will add to the cost. Doing it out of aluminum would be faster and cheaper but it won't last the test of time and I won't make something i know is inferior. So that means it will need a fancy probably tool steel and potentially heat treated. If I can set it up without losing money for the price guys find acceptable we will be in there ;-)

 

If i could get one that was like the tb klx 110 clutch kit where you could not put that spacer and leave the centrifugal part. I really liked it. I ride it in the woods alot. It was like having a recluse clutch. Clutch or no clutch. I wish i could have a hydraulic line just comen out of my stock cover through the adjuster.

 

The way I ell set this up will be very similar to a klx hydro. The big difference in the case of the crf110 is.... the stock crf110 clutch basket while fine for what it is from the factory or very mildly modded form it's really not beefy enough for the 132cc kits. Unlike the klx the crf doesn't use clutch springs so replacing stock springs for HD ones isn't an option plus it's only a 3 fiber setup. I can't speak for bbrs kit but with trailbikes 132cc bbk, oversize valves, cam, bbr cdi, exhaust, porting, and reverse manifold with vm26 horsepower is roght around 3 times more than factory. Take a minute and think about what I just said and just how substantial that gain is 300% more power from stock. That would be like taking your big bike 90+ hp and saying yeah the stock clutch will be fine.

blue line is a bone stock crf110 red line is almost like what I have stated above only difference it's a 127cc. So in reality the 132cc kit makes more than that.

Now with that said surprisingly only a handful of guys have had clutch slipping/issues. But I have my concerns that a whole new dynamic of ass whooping will occur to the clutch when a hand clutch is introduced. If the basket, surface area and pressure isn't increased I have this feeling with the ability to grab a handful of clutch rev her to the moon and dump it will create clutch fad, cooked fibers etc... So this is why I wanna change the basket to a 5 fiber spring setup. If your running a lightly modded crf and/or assume I take no responsibility that if I could make a clutch like you want (cause I would have to use the stock basket for room to keep it like a semi auto with hand clutch)that if clutch should fad or cook fibers like I think it may I could look into that for you. cause as I stated above the slave (piece that slides into the clutch adjustment hole on klx clutch cover) will be the same style I will do with the crf.

 

Im glad we have guys out there like you storman to figure all this stuff out. I have a full mod 110 so my crf will go no bigger than a 132 no valves or vm26. If i could just throw a lever on it nothing more with the centrifugal still there i would be happy. If the clutch goes out i throw another in. I just need a clutch lever to roost my freinds and do your typical goone ridding techniques.

 

I need 3 kits! Tired of waiting and hoping

 

I'm interested also. I like the idea of the centrifugal with a lever, kind of like a recluse clutch!

 

Anything new happening with this I'd like to have one to get out of the corners better.

 

Yeah chad, how's your test dumbie clutch doing? I know some people that'd love to have you build them a clutch setup.

 

test dummies engine is on the way. I actually think its due to show up tomorrow. so it won't be long from now til I get some track feed back

 

Pumped

 

same here hopefully it works well cause there's a bunch of guys wanting a manual clutch

 

I want one

 

let the hydro clutch be on its way ;-) crf 110 hydro manual clutch | Vintageminibikesforum.com sorry guys will not be posting this on the planet. so for those who wanna follow along will have to join VMB

 

Sweet!! Looking good.

 

well guys she works on the bench