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Like I said before, I got a CC'ing kit if your in need. I'm running 12.5:1 with an Akunar piston at 210 psi. Bike's I've seen run that same psi. and get away with 93 pump gas until it got hot out, like in the 90's. Never the less I always run straight Avgas. Turnersville airport on Tuckahoe road is just 10min's from my place and they are real freindly about selling you AvGas. It was $5.50 a gallon last time I was there. If you want to pump some into your race street car, they'll let ya :) It take's me weeks to go thru a couple gallons of AvGas and it smells so sweet...

Hope this helps your decision.
 
firepower354 said:
Over 300? You running a diesel??? That puts you around 17-18:1 with great rings.


Confirmed it with two different gauges. (Trying to track down what seemed like a jetting problem that wouldn't go away, my friend suggested a compression check to see if I was down. Having never tested this motor I had no idea what it should be, when we hit 300psi at 5 kicks, we thought the gauge might have filled with oil, causing excessive readings. A second gauge confirmed the first's reading.) The setup is a DRP 54mm crank, Dr ATV 51mm piston, and a DRP Ultra head, TB 189A cam, using a .75mm copper gasket.



My 72cc motor used to run 275psi consistently as well, Powroll 11:1 piston, 70 head, cylinder decked .40in, and a thin copper gasket..
 
If they can deal with low displacement motors, I'll be happy to 'share my secrets.' It just seems the smaller builds are much more compression tolerant. My Lifan BVH 141 build was much lower compression comparatively but wanted high test to keep from pinging.
 
Discussion starter · #33 ·
Is their a diagram showing the dome sizes or diferences between these two pistons?

This one:

47MM_PISTON_KIT 47.25MM_PISTON_KIT 47.50MM_PISTON_KIT 47.75MM_PISTON_KIT 48MM_PISTON_KIT (OLD_70_DOME) (SHORT_ROD) (SHORT_CYLINDER) ALL_ATC70'S ALL_TRX70'S CT70_&_C70_TO_81

and this:

47MM_PISTON_KIT (OLD_50_DOME) OR (NEW_70_DOME) (SHORT_ROD) (SHORT_CYLINDER) (100020)

I am going to go with one of these two and just would like to know how much different they are? I checked on the Dratv site and didn't find a diagram like on some of their other pistons. I just wonder how much more dome the second one has.

Also what is the spigot size of the 54mm kit? My cases are only 56mm and Would an auto clutch be able to handle the power of the 114?



Thanks a lot Firepower for all your help, I really do appriciate it:cool::cool::D



Wheele, If you go with the 54mm kit LMK how it works, I might go that route later on.



Ty I might take you up on that offer so I know what I have, Thanks.:cool:
 
Discussion starter · #35 ·
Me to the auto clutch is where it's at:cool:! Plus I am not sure of the spigot size of the 54mm jug? Could be too tight, plus I want to stay 88cc as the race class rules state (50 mod).
 
When I bought the bike from Outlaw he told me the TB114 would bolt on. So I am hoping it will. I am not racing just want more power!!! To me the bike has good power down low, pulls good even though I weigh 210 lbs, just want a little extra.
 
Keep it class legal Mazz, it's not worth the hassle if someone calls you out. I'd go with the first piston choice and the big dome. I wasn't sure what mine would be until I got the piston, using the cc kit, I was able to determine what thickness of base and head gaskets I would need to arrive at the compresion I wanted. It took two extra weeks cause I had to order the piston, wait for it to arrive, then cc it and order the gaskets after that.



Replace that tempting extra displacement with sky high compression. Make sure you got your head and case vented real well. I think I popped a seal on mine even with it vented pretty well. Anyhow, I doubt you will be underpowered in the 88 class with the combo you've been talking about. Those guys seem to be pretty reasonable with thier motor builds, unlike the higher displacement classes that are out of control. 15hp is so 2007!
 
Discussion starter · #40 ·
Ty, definatly staying class legal just exploring the options. I am going to go with the first piston Firepower suggested and will probably want to use your cc'ing kit to obtain a max pump gas compression ratio. Thanks
 
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