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I stopped selling SSR bikes in my shop because they are very poor build quality. They have some nice components on some of them but suffer from terrible plastics problems including the gas tanks always cracking and leaking, their bushings were junk, hoses dry rot in just weeks, motors are ok but are certainly the bottom of the Chinese barrel, frames are exceptionally weak, wiring problems galore, poor factory assembly etc...

I have not seen any of the newer models so I hope they have improved but I have zero faith in that company and personally do not deal with them anymore. That is my opinion based on over 50 bikes that I received from them.
 
We have been selling product from SSR for 3 years, we sold 387 SSR bikes in 2005, that does not even include the dealers who buy through us. Some of the earlier bikes suffered from some of the symptoms described above, as did most all the early Chinese Pit Bikes, not just SSR. Thanks to dealers like myself and others, a lot of upgrades and inprovemants have gone into the latest SSR models. Each and ever order that SSR places on bikes, seem to have some newly updated or improved component. We love their product and stand behind it 100%.
 
Outlaw Minis said:
We have been selling product from SSR for 3 years, we sold 387 SSR bikes in 2005, that does not even include the dealers who buy through us. Some of the earlier bikes suffered from some of the symptoms described above, as did most all the early Chinese Pit Bikes, not just SSR. Thanks to dealers like myself and others, a lot of upgrades and inprovemants have gone into the latest SSR models. Each and ever order that SSR places on bikes, seem to have some newly updated or improved component. We love their product and stand behind it 100%.
Sounds like a vast improvement then described above!!



Sanoman23
 
bennyrae said:
bartw what bikes are you sellin now
First let me tell you that I do not sell bikes on the internet. I firmly believe that any mechanical product that can cause serious injury to the end user needs to be properly inspected and assembled by a professional and therefore no motorcycles of any kind should be sold in a crate over the web. Having said that, I believe it is no big deal if you sell a real Honda over the net because they are assembled properly at the factory and require next to nothing from the end user as Chinese bikes require a very thorough check and sometimes "reengineering". I actually have a couple of SSR bikes in my basement that are "parts bikes" because I did not see them as being fit for anyone to use. To answer someone from earlier these SSR bikes were purchased earlier this year, I met the people from SSR at the Indianapolis Dealer Expo last February and they seemed to have their stuff together but I quickly found out otherwise. I feel that most of their bikes are adequate for 6 year olds to tool around the back yard with once they have been gone through and some suspect parts replaced but that is as far as they should be used. I am a little more upset with SSR because my shoulder is still killing me from when I tried to get about 1 foot of air with one of their 110s and upon landing the triple tree cracked and revealed that it was made of the most porrous and contaminated aluminum I have ever seen.

I sell Thumpstar and RCM bikes for adult pit bikes. The Thumpstar is the highest quality China made bike I have ever seen and there is not one component on it that does not look like it is better than on a Honda. Thumpstar's fit and finish is unmatched by anyone else and their assembly and final build quality rivals Japanese bikes. Having said that the base model's shock and forks are nowhere near as good as the RCM. The RCM does not have the nice plastics or the fit and quality of a Thumpstar but the suspension on the RCM blows everything in its price range right out of the water and the frame is very nice and much stronger than the Thump. I personally choose the RCM because it is a lot easier and cheaper to replace the cheap plastic, bars, and correct the poor assembly than it would be to replace the frame and suspension on the Thump. Once again, I sell all of the brand we have discussed and have seen just about all the brands out there and this is my personal opinion. I sell RCM bikes and feel it is the best bike for the money but in my honesty I have pointed out its flaws as well.
 
SkinDonor said:
which we been adressing and have a guy at the factory as we speak dealing with those issues
You are very close to the "perfect" pit racer for adults ( I realize nothing is perfect for everyone but if you guys have a chance to see and feel a RCM suspension and frame do yourself a favor and check it out)
 
jbones31 said:
bartw Wow that fairly recent that you had those problems with the SSR, what models did you sell?
Yes it is all in the last few months. I actually race an SSR on motard tracks, the front end is flawed from the factory and I cannot get the wobble out of it no matter what I do(it will flex no matter what you do to it), I have already replaced the stator and wire harness because I was tired of loosing spark all the time, the rear swingarm bushings are now Honda units cause the SSR ones are good for 10 minutes or so, the plastics are the cheapest $20 ebay plastics, the spokes in the wheels are now "Redloctited" because they come loose every 10 minutes of riding on smooth pavement.

I NEED TO MAKE ONE THING CLEAR: I never purchased any of the "higher line" SSR models with like the upside down forks. I mainly purchased their 70cc bikes to sell in my shop to 6-10 year olds and some of their 110cc bikes. I am not saying that you can't fix one of these bikes to make it decent, they are ok for a 6 year old as long as you got one with a good gas tank and the wires don't pull out of the plugs (the stator wires on the SSR bikes are not even soldered together in the harness half the time, they are often just tied together and electrical taped over, this is what I call a poor quality build) It is my opinion that the bikes are adequate for some people and they are certainly inexpensive but they are not even close to quality built. I hope that the higher line bikes are built to better standards but I am not willing to take that chance.

To answer someone else's question: my shop is in Trenton, MI. I have a showroom that has the Thumpstar and RCM bikes in stock at this moment and if you would like to see SSR frames, wire harnesses or my crappy SSR race bike and verify what I am saying is true then come on down and see for yourselves.
 
BartW, I do not want to start a pissing match with you. I am not going to stand here and say that we have never had any problems with an SSR bike either. I will even back you when you say the SSR 70cc bike is not an adult bike. Even some of the entry level 110cc bikes are not adult bikes and if a dealer is selling them or marketing them to adults, is it the bikes fault? Your comparisons are a bit out of line. You are comparing SSR entry level kids bikes that have a dealer cost of $300-$400 to bikes that have a dealers cost of $1200. That is like comparing a Kia to a Cadillac.



Yeah, if you are riding or selling a bike designed for kids to adults you are going to have issues. But, then again are you going to sell a $2-3K Pit Bike bike to your average 6 year old?



I can not validate any experience you have had in the past with SSR product, all I can do is state that SSR has came along way in a short period of time to put together a better built product line. I have confidence in their product and will back it 100%, We are careful to match the right bike with the right rider. If a 18 year old ask me about a 70cc bike, I am going to upsell him into a bike that will match his riding and explain to him why.



I wish only the best of luck to you.

Nate
 
Outlaw Minis said:
BartW, I do not want to start a pissing match with you. I am not going to stand here and say that we have never had any problems with an SSR bike either. I will even back you when you say the SSR 70cc bike is not an adult bike. Even some of the entry level 110cc bikes are not adult bikes and if a dealer is selling them or marketing them to adults, is it the bikes fault? Your comparisons are a bit out of line. You are comparing SSR entry level kids bikes that have a dealer cost of $300-$400 to bikes that have a dealers cost of $1200. That is like comparing a Kia to a Cadillac.



Yeah, if you are riding or selling a bike designed for kids to adults you are going to have issues. But, then again are you going to sell a $2-3K Pit Bike bike to your average 6 year old?



I can not validate any experience you have had in the past with SSR product, all I can do is state that SSR has came along way in a short period of time to put together a better built product line. I have confidence in their product and will back it 100%, We are careful to match the right bike with the right rider. If a 18 year old ask me about a 70cc bike, I am going to upsell him into a bike that will match his riding and explain to him why.



I wish only the best of luck to you.

Nate
This is not a pissing match as you say. I clearly repeated which bikes I was referring to. No I don't think a kid's bike should be used by adults but I think this entire forum is based on kid's bikes such as the Honda 50 being used by adults and actually holding up. You must be reading this and interpreting this the way you want to because how is a wire harness that is just taped together end up on these high quality bikes you speak of? It does not matter if a 2 year old or adult is riding a bike that has a crappy harness like that or gas tanks that leak from the factory and gas caps that crack right off when you try to tighten them. The simple fact is that the 70 and 110cc bikes that I got from SSR are the lowest quality Chinese junk bikes. If their other bikes are better, I would not know because I was afraid to spend the extra money for the better parts to only end up with the same piddly problems like the other bikes. No matter how you parfume a pig it is still a pig. Someone asked for an opinion and I gave mine which obviously differs from yours but I would never consider that a pissing match and if you want to make it one that be it but my only intention was to let someone know what to expect from any of the bikes that I have had extensive experience with.
 
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