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Hey guy/girls i have a little problem

I can't get a spark on my little bike, it's definitely not the spark plug and i cleaned the points and the flywheel but it still won't even get a spark when i ground the plug to the frame, i have no idea what i need to do, a friend of mine told me its the coil package and another friend told me it's the magneto But I'm not very experienced... Help would be GREATLY appreciated. PM me if you need more information

thanks,

matt
 
Popcorc...



I just sent you another PM, detailing how to check your coil. It's easy and only takes a couple of minutes. Try that before you buy anything, and let me know what happens.



When you cleaned the points, what did the contact surfaces look like? Were they still smooth and shiny, or did they have pits and bumps on them? If they were pitted/bumpy, they probably won't work, but still check the coil first before you worry about that.
 
As I said in my PMs, to do the points you need a feeler gauge and a points file. There is nothing you can do with a wire brush that will benefit you or your malfunctioning ignition system in any way. Seriously.



You can get away with sandpaper, maybe, or an emery board, if you're careful to get all the gritty crap left behind off the points with the aerosol spray electronics cleaner I also recommended. But you can do a better job with the points file. You can get it all at an auto parts store.



The points need to be set somewhere in the range of .012"-.016", so make sure you get a feeler gauge that has one or more of the following sizes: .012", .013", .014", .015", .016". Any of those will work, but shoot for the middle of the range if you can: .014".
 
I think we need to establish spark first before getting all fancy about it. Step at a time.*





*Also I can never remember the timing mark info without looking it up in the manual I highly recommend having. My manual is at the other end of the estate right now.
 
I'd skip the points file. Unless you have the flexibile type, they can do more damage then good.



Best method for cleaning points is a small strip of a brown paper grocery sack slid between the points until they come clean.



I use 5 strips, folded in half, about 1/4" wide each. Open up the points, insert paper, and carefully drag the paper through the face of the points with the points fully closed.



1. first dipped in acetone or MEK. Not dripping wet, just damp.

2. Dry

3. Acetone again

4. Dry

5. Dry



#5 should show no grease or marks on the paper and the points should be clean.



Then follow up with the electronic points contact cleaner or MAF sensor cleaner from the auto parts store. Make sure there is no fibers or embedded dust in the points.



If the points are pitted or corroded either concave or convex on either face, spend the $10 to get a new set of points. Filing points can be beneficial, but you can also embed material in the face of the points that will do more damage then good. With that said, a set of points will last a gazillion years if maintained properly. I have some old outboard motors that I still use the original points and they are going on 60 years old.



Nothing wrong with filing, but if you don't know what you are doing, you will do more harm then good. Mexicanyella obviously knows what he's doing here and can recondition points to outlast the ignition system on the bikes.



I'd also think about replacing the condensor if there are spark issues after the stator coils are checked. These are cheap maintenance items.
 
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Nothing wrong with filing, but if you don't know what you are doing, you will do more harm then good. Mexicanyella obviously knows what he's doing here and can recondition points to outlast the ignition system on the bikes.



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It's good to be considered competent at something. Thank you for this honor.
 
mexicanyella said:
[quote name='Z']

Nothing wrong with filing, but if you don't know what you are doing, you will do more harm then good. Mexicanyella obviously knows what he's doing here and can recondition points to outlast the ignition system on the bikes.



QUOTE]



It's good to be considered competent at something. Thank you for this honor.




hmmm I wonder what else he may know??????;)
 
Now, is she holding her hair up like that because she's hot, do you think? She's hardly wearing anything; I'd think she'd be cool enough. I saw that expression and holding-hair-up thing and thought she looked "thoughtful."



Or maybe "running out of patience with whatever she's listening to."
 
Discussion starter · #15 ·
mexicanyella said:
I think we need to establish spark first before getting all fancy about it. Step at a time.*





*Also I can never remember the timing mark info without looking it up in the manual I highly recommend having. My manual is at the other end of the estate right now.


Ha, i actually went to the library today like you said with a pocket of change and there were no books on vintage hondas so.... I will have to but one
 
mexicanyella said:
Now, is she holding her hair up like that because she's hot, do you think? She's hardly wearing anything; I'd think she'd be cool enough. I saw that expression and holding-hair-up thing and thought she looked "thoughtful."



Or maybe "running out of patience with whatever she's listening to."




well she looks a little bit Latina so she coud be near the border in which it is just hot....
 
mexicanyella said:
Why, I sing like a bird.



It's from strolling amongst the stately cacti, and the dining patrons, with my two compadres, singing and accompanying myself on the bajo sexto.






hmmm could not find a sound clip of an ostritch gargling:)

so this will have to work RED AKA Mexicanyella (not really)

 
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