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Hey guys

How does the bbr 88cc kit compare the kitaco and takegawa? bbr is just so much more money but if it's a better kit and more reliable then thats what i'll get...which one of the 3 do you guys feel is the most RELIABLE and good power as well?
 

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Im not 100% sure, but I think the BBR kit costs more money because they have their own cylinders made with their logo stamped on them. Id assume its just as good as any Kitaco kit.
 

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BBR's kits aren't manufactured in the US. They are made overseas just like all the other kits.



They cost more because people are paying for the name, just like the Kitaco and Takegawa kits.



A bore kit is a bore kit.
 

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I agree with Z88.



I can imagine how competitive the fiddie market is today?? What the

companys should be doing is lowering their prices. and worrying about

if they can keep the products on the shelves for everybody to buy....

An 88cc kit is an 88cc kit. Hey BBR has got to find some way to pay

for tha crazy carmichael lookalike bike.
 

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This is taken straight of of there web page



"At BBR Motorsports Inc., we're dedicated to building great 4-stroke off-road motorcycles."



"Our modifications are conceived, designed, and tested with one goal: Building a better product. We take pride in the fit and finish of all BBR products, but function comes first. Whether it is aluminum, titanium, chro-moly, or carbon-fiber, we are always searching for the best materials for every application."



If you look at all of the R&D work that BBR does by machining all of there own parts. They make some of the trickest parts and accesories for 4-strokes on the market. If they sold mass produced parts they could sell them cheaper. But they don't and they aren't going to. So you are really paying for the priviledge to have a part that you know has been tried and tested and beat on and kicked. These parts are strong and built to last.



Also look what it comes with.



*• BBR Big Valve/Big Port Cylinder Head*

• BBR Aluminum Cylinder

• 52mm 11:1 piston, rings, pin, clips

• Exclusive BBR Motocross grind Camshaft

• Complete top end gasket set

• 18mm Carb Kit with throttle and cable

• Performance manifold and air filter

*• BBR Camshaft cover*

*• BBR HD Clutch Springs*

*• High volume oil pump*

• Detailed instructions



Most of the kits i've seen do not come with the oil pump or the cyclinder head.



The Takegawa kit is $600 and doesn't come with that stuff it comes with



R-STAGE Head

High Dome compression Piston and ring set,

Rocker Arms set

Timing Gear

Aluminum Cylinder

gasket set.

11.7:1 Compression Ratio

with large ports and valves.



The carb and cam are optional



The Kitaco kit is identical to the takegawa and comes with the same stuff also with the carb and cam being optional.



BBR has made this kit at a reasonable price but it comes complete with detailed intructions.



Just my $0.02
 

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Have you seen BBR's instructions.?? I installed a 82 kit in my buddies 50 and I must say bbr's instructions are the worst. I had to revert back to my instructions from my Takegawa kit. :roll:
 

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Have you seen BBR's instructions.?? I installed a 82 kit in my buddies 50 and I must say bbr's instructions are the worst. I had to revert back to my instructions from my Takegawa kit. :roll:


No I haven't do theyu suck. OR are they just complicated? I just seem to side with BBR beacause of there quality and determination to strive a United states buseiness in a pretty much Japaness dominated market. You have to give them props for becoming what they are today
 

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i personally like BBR products but that kit is way out of my price range, so i would rather go with the takagawa, but i do run the bbr pipe and skid and love em both 8)
 

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I am not knocking bbr's craftsmanship. They are top notch and innovators at what they do. And they do make great products. Beleive me! I am a machinist and a machinist is very picky when it comes to machined parts. And from what I have seen of bbr's stuff it is great. But they have got to lose the GOLD! But yes anyways bbr's instruction are the worst I have ever seen That's my 2 cents.
 

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I did my 82 kit without instructions and it was so easy.......the size of the motor itself leaves for simplicity..........and furhtermore, all the takegawa and kitaco stuff i have bought came with instructions printed in japanese.......thats sounds pretty difficult to me.............back to the bbr stuff.........the reason it is so expensive is that it comes with all the accessories that you would need later with a lesser kit.........it is very cost effective........and if you ever need help with products, call BBR, they will be happy to spend any amount of time on the phone to help..........and last but not least QUALITY, QUALITY, QUALITY......
 
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