Ok, here's the report. The forks are THE STUFF. They are NOT too long and NOT overkill. The best mini forks I have ridden, by far. I love Zokes but these are that much better. Very much a big bike feel, very plush, NO bottoming. However, the brakes...they SUCK!. Worse than Zoke Formula or Hayes MX brake. I know that seems not possible but it is. I am now in the process of trying to figure out a way to put a different brake on it. I am going to see if I can machine a bracket to hold the Pax brake. Besides being a little heavy, the Pax brake is sweet...just like my big bike. As far as the CR85 hub and brake, I spoke with Vinco yesterday and they are looking into it but I think they may have a problem with the hub being too wide. We'll see. By the way, the report on the forks performance is also confirmed from one of our pro riders, Randy Pekarek who placed 6th in the 12E Main at Vegas. He loved the forks and said the same things about them.