[Z]

One of the Germans has been thinking outside the box and is building an aftermarket turbo for the small Honda motors. This one is fit onto one of the chinese motors, and is their prototype.

Whole turbo kits available soon. Around the same price as the Takegataco high end stroker motors.

 

[MiniStav]

what exactly would it do to performance, is it like a hp booster or is is a temporary booster like nas?

 

[Z]

what exactly would it do to performance, is it like a hp booster or is is a temporary booster like nas?

You are kidding right?



Do a web search on Turbocharging. As an FYI, Nitrous Oxide is the power adder, NOS is a company who sells Nixtrous Oxide Kits. Nawz is a stupid slang term made up by the movie industry..

 

[mudpumper]

Turbos could work for road racing. But I think a dirt application would be a tough nut to crack. Reason being is the time lag for an exhaust driven turbo to build RPMs. They need to spin 20-25,000 RPM. Quick throttle response is generally gone with a turbo unless is is run supercharger style and driven by the engine rather than exhaust gases. A fixed size wastegate could be the answer. But it would be cool on a road track when that turbo kicks in. Just don't let that manifold pressure get to high or your cylinder head will pass your front wheel before the next turn.

 

[Z]

I 100% agree. For dirt applications, you would need RPM's to build boost and in turn make power. I'd install this on a street motard, but not a dirt bike unless the track was wide open and had very long straights...



Currently, there is no viable company making an aftermarket power adder for the single cylinder Honda motor (Nitrous Oxide Excluded), and due to low demand, other than this turbo kit in testing that will retail for 2000 Euro plus misc. parts, people won't bring these parts to market.



A supercharger on a small displacement motor is unlikely, but a small turbo could be doable, and this is the first company I've seen that would have a small enough turbo to work. Lastly, I wouldn't want to run this close to the plastics, as I'm sure the heat would be brutal.

 

[RacingRice]

Very interesting! It would be nice for a street motard. I couldnt imagine a turbo that small having much lag, but then again the motor isnt very big either. Id be interested to see the power curve from a dyno for that.

 

[Jonny]

I dont think so

I think that running that small of a motor with a turbo would cause a lot of problems I think that the motor would overheat and to put on a big enough radiator to cool it wouldnt be possible no way

 

[Jonny]

I dont think so

I think that running that small of a motor with a turbo would cause a lot of problems I think that the motor would overheat and to put on a big enough radiator to cool it wouldnt be possible no way

 

[JCMINIS]

if you go down to your local honda power equipment dealer (lawn mowers,tillers,etc)they have a push mower that has a turbo or supercharger cant remember which,the brochure dosent have a good description.i have a freind that works at one and hes supposed to look into it for me LATER JC

 

[Jonny]

why the hell would a push mower have turbo in it sounds like BS to me

 

[DirtySouthRacing]

if you go down to your local honda power equipment dealer (lawn mowers,tillers,etc)they have a push mower that has a turbo or supercharger cant remember which,the brochure dosent have a good description.i have a freind that works at one and hes supposed to look into it for me LATER JC

why the hell would a push mower have turbo in it sounds like BS to me

You just have a way of charming people don't you? 8O :lol:

 

[JCMINIS]

why the hell would a push mower have turbo in it sounds like BS to me

go look and see for your self Mr. Goodwrench

 

[Guest]

Re: I dont think so

I think that running that small of a motor with a turbo would cause a lot of problems I think that the motor would overheat and to put on a big enough radiator to cool it wouldnt be possible no way

These engines are not liquid cooled. Unless BBR makes theirs soon. If you have not noticed there are oil coolers though. They work great. There are some motors such as the 117SE that would produce much more heat than a turbo. They seem to stay cool just fine. Not being rude, but could you use sentences so it is easier to read your posts? Thanks.

 

[Guest]

why the hell would a push mower have turbo in it sounds like BS to me

Why do they make turbo's for cars? You should go look around before commenting. Just a word of advice :wink: .

 

[~E]

...A supercharger on a small displacement motor is unlikely...

z88r, I copied this for you from PowerbikeUSA (They also have a dual carb intake!):



SUPERCHARGER KIT: Includes the following:



one supercharger, one complete head assembly, one carburetor, two drive belts, and one set of drive pulleys. This kit will generate 12 to 15 lbs of boost @ 3800 rpm



These kits are recommended for 70cc and above!!! bolt on installations for Honda Z50, CT 70, SL 70, CT 90, and CT 110





~E

 

[Z]

[quote name='z88R']...A supercharger on a small displacement motor is unlikely...

z88r, I copied this for you from PowerbikeUSA (They also have a dual carb intake!):



SUPERCHARGER KIT: Includes the following:



one supercharger, one complete head assembly, one carburetor, two drive belts, and one set of drive pulleys. This kit will generate 12 to 15 lbs of boost @ 3800 rpm



These kits are recommended for 70cc and above!!! bolt on installations for Honda Z50, CT 70, SL 70, CT 90, and CT 110



~E[/quote]



Erik,



Go ahead and try to order one of those supercharger kits. They have never been available. Plus, from a theory standpoint, if the supercharger is making 12-15 lbs of boost at 3800 rpm, how much boost is it makeing at 11k rpm? Vaporware...

 

[MXcrazy5050]

erik r u talking about this kit?

 

[five0addict]

yea thats the one :lol:

 

[DirtySouthRacing]

I heard they work great!! :roll: :lol: