[A25MX]

I snapped the lower right stud on my bike and need help getting it out. I've tried vice grips but the nub is too small to grip. Next I tried easy out but that didnt seem to work cuz the piece snapped in half. So I went up to the next size and tried drilling a bigger hold into the stud but its extemely hard to drill into.Here are some pics:

 

[jbone483]

Ouch, Send it to the scrap pile

 

[A25MX]

I didn't need to hear that jackass, your whole bike should be sent to the scrap pile.

 

[micro75]

Find a good tig welder and have him weld a nut to the stud then you can back it out also disconect the cdi box while welding

 

[Kurlon]

I'd opt for a new case half. If the stud is THAT bound up in there, it's likely the case threads are gone anyways.

 

[almostfiddy]

Maybe you can get a stud extractor to grip on. If not the welded nut is a good idea. Also, a little heat from a propane torch on the case might help.

 

[RB Racing]

Micro75 is correct but you can use a mig welder also, weld a slightly larger nut on and back it right out.

 

[trailpimp33]

How did you manage to break that anyway?

 

[xr80david]

A new case halve would be the smartest but time consuming since everything has to be removed from the engine in order to do that.



Also, if you can get a nut to screw onto the stud get it on there and then weld it and then you can unscrew it...

 

[p3racer]

heat it up and use some damn vise grips and some freeall spray

 

[FastMC]

Dont listen to these clowns telling you to get a new case. Unless you have an easy out broken off in there then you should be able to drill and retap if you take your time. Or go the other method mentioned with a welder. And yes definately heat the case before using an extractor or the weld-on nut method.

 

[FASTFREAK693]

heat it up and use some damn vise grips and some freeall spray

THIS TRIED AND TRUE BACKYARD METHOD ALMOST ALWAYS WORKS!!





YOU MAY ALSO WANT TO REMOVE THE ENGINE FROM THE BIKE. IT MAKES WORKING ON IT FAR EASIER.

 

[A25MX]

How did you manage to break that anyway?

Over tightened it because it was leaking oil so I my bright mind figured if I tighten it enough it would stop but nope, just completely broke the stud.

 

[A25MX]

heat it up and use some damn vise grips and some freeall spray

How am I supposed to get vice grips on there, they keep slipping off.

 

[p3racer]

I dont know maybe your vise grips are worn out ? Or not a good set ?

 

[Z50King]

Over tightened it because it was leaking oil so I my bright mind figured if I tighten it enough it would stop but nope, just completely broke the stud.

the other lower stud is the one with oil pressure on it. not that stud

 

[micro75]

Another thing that helps is after welding or heating the cases put a little wax on the bolt it will run down the threads and help lube them on the way out to stop galling

 

[londregmoto]

the other lower stud is the one with oil pressure on it. not that stud

yeah he was just tightening them all tho

 

[turboglenn]

YOu've got a few options, you could either try and slot what's left with a dremel tool to use a flat head to try and get it out. And if that don't work, use the dremel and some of the bits to shape the stud to where teh drill bit will want to center on it when you're starting the drill... After drilling it, use a screw extractor to get what's left out.



Most of the time when i do brake a bolt off in something aluminum, i'll just drill it large enough that i use a small pick to knock what's left of the bolt out of the hole. Then if the threads aren't in good shape use a heli-coil ( you can get them at about any hardware or automotive store ) and it will be stronger than it was new... you'd probably be looking for a heli-coil kit to give you an M6 x 1.0 thread ( that's what the honda cases are theaded factory )... I just don't know if there's enough room for a heli-coil in that area of the motor.



just have to try and at the worst case, you buy a new case half

 

[thorwarrior915]

I learned the weld a nut on method in college... and it works. I have seen broken exhaust studs come out... and friday night I used to to get a broken chain adjuster bolt out of a swingarm. It was a M6 x 1.0 bolt that broke with just enough thread left to weld on it. I tried using some 1/4" nuts that I had laying around... but they werent big enough, they would just crack right off. So I got a bigger nut and put the heat right to it with my little cheapo ebay mig welder. It backed right out after that.



One other thing... after you weld the nut on and the broken stud is piping hot.. take a little wax and touch it to the threads. It will wick in between the bolt and the threads and make the broken stud come out easier.