Question for Gary @ Pitster?

1226 Views 21 Replies 13 Participants Last post by Motokids, Dec 25, 2008

Motokids

Discussion Starter · Dec 24, 2008

Have you thought about making a nice hydraulic clutch kit for the X4/X4R, and maybe the newer LXR bikes?

We have always been a KTM family, and really liked the feel of the juice clutch. I know many Mini riders put them on the KLX type bikes, so I would only assume there would be a market for them in the Pitster world?

Thanks!

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Blackwoodz

· #2 · Dec 24, 2008

Motokids said:
Have you thought about making a nice hydraulic clutch kit for the X4/X4R, and maybe the newer LXR bikes?

We have always been a KTM family, and really liked the feel of the juice clutch. I know many Mini riders put them on the KLX type bikes, so I would only assume there would be a market for them in the Pitster world?

Thanks!

Sorry I am not Gary and I am sure he will chime in when he sees your post.

Many vendors sell a hydraulic actuated arm to replace the cable mechanism. This is a much cheaper way to have a hydro clutch feel to your bke.

If you do not find what you want from the great planet min vendors look at ebay. I see them selling there for under $50 shipped.

aedwards07

· #3 · Dec 24, 2008

Yea but most of them are junk and have very odd levers.I think he is talking about a nice Magura setup.Really you could use a current magura setup with just a special bracket and not even have to change the length of the line.

HACKMUNCH

· #4 · Dec 24, 2008

the hydro kits are junk but with the right master cyclinder they work well. brent did one a few years a go for vegas and used a magura (spelling?) hydro master cyclinder and it worked killer.

Blackwoodz

· #5 · Dec 24, 2008

What is junk about them besides you saying the odd levers? Can those be swapped?

I have a left handed hydro mechanism that came on a mini crotch rocket used for rear hydraulic brakes on a X7. It is seems to be just the same mechanism as a front hydro brake but set up for the right handle bar. I understand what you are saying about the magura but it is just another r-d cost factor for a very limited demand.

I still prefer the cable clutch because it is easier to maintain and it has more clutch feel to me. I am sure like any entity if demand calls for it someone will answer that call.

HACKMUNCH

· #6 · Dec 24, 2008

the mech down by where the clutch cable hooks to the engine is ok but the master cyclinder part is junk, thats why it's so hard to pull. swap that out for a magura and your golden.

doopsx3

· #7 · Dec 24, 2008

I have a China hydro clutch and the action is fine...never fades...lever is kinda weird tho

CJsDad

· #8 · Dec 24, 2008

We had a hydrolic clutch on two of our bikes(the chinese hyrdo ones) and my son liked them because they pulled in easier than a cable style but he also hated that they were either on or off. Once you put slight pressure on them they would release the clutch all the way.

Motokids

Discussion Starter · #9 · Dec 24, 2008

Hack,

So if I find one of those crappy ones on eBay, and then replace the master (up on bars) to say a KTM 65, would the system be fine then? One thing I do not like about the ones on eBay, is that they slide over the bar ends, so you have to put new grips on anytime you need to take it off (I know, probably not a lot). Does the KTM 65 cable attach to the lower actuator, or would I need a different cable.

Thanks! A nice hydraulic set up is nice, as we like them anyway. The trick is to run Mobile 1 Synthetic ATF in the system, instead of the mineral oil. We used that on all our KTM bikes with great results. Grant Langston's Uncle (Andrew) taught us that trick when the boys were sponsored by Langston Racing.

CJsDad

· #10 · Dec 24, 2008

Motokids said:
Hack,

So if I find one of those crappy ones on eBay, and then replace the master (up on bars) to say a KTM 65, would the system be fine then? One thing I do not like about the ones on eBay, is that they slide over the bar ends, so you have to put new grips on anytime you need to take it off (I know, probably not a lot). Does the KTM 65 cable attach to the lower actuator, or would I need a different cable.

Thanks! A nice hydraulic set up is nice, as we like them anyway. The trick is to run Mobile 1 Synthetic ATF in the system, instead of the mineral oil. We used that on all our KTM bikes with great results. Grant Langston's Uncle (Andrew) taught us that trick when the boys were sponsored by Langston Racing.

You just want to find the magura clutch set on Ebay for a big bike. The KTM65 one will need a new line made since it hooks up to the slave unit different. Magura makes a clutch set up that is the same set up as the Chinese ones you see. Just bolts right one and you might need to make a bracket for the slave unit but I have heard of people moding the one thats on the bike now.

Paxracing

· #11 · Dec 24, 2008

CJsDad

· #12 · Dec 24, 2008

If you get one like this, you will be all set to go.

eBay Motors: HONDA CRF450 CRF250 MAGURA HUDRAULIC CLUTCH (item 290283928178 end time Dec-25-08 12:13:53 PST)

Matified

· #13 · Dec 24, 2008

Paxracing said:
PaxRacingStore

I think the question was directed at Gary at Pitster, It is one thing to have people offer advice on the question asked, but as a paid advertiser to use this as an advertisement for yourself seems,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Gary just might offer the products that were asked of him.

Paxracing

· #14 · Dec 24, 2008

Then dont answer for gray.

Matified

· #15 · Dec 25, 2008

Paxracing said:
Then dont answer for gray.

As you can tell I did not answer for Gary, I did not say Pitster did or did not have the product in question, I also did not try and sell said product in a question for Gary thread as you did.

magiksc

· #16 · Dec 25, 2008

Its not really a big deal IMO. I mean a few guys are posting links to help this guy find a hydro clutch lets all enjoy the NAVIDAD. Hey Motokids, look like you got some helpful links, let us know what you do and how you like it.

flyn62

· #17 · Dec 25, 2008

magiksc said:
Its not really a big deal IMO. I mean a few guys are posting links to help this guy find a hydro clutch lets all enjoy the NAVIDAD. Hey Motokids, look like you got some helpful links, let us know what you do and how you like it.

true true. i also would like to know how a hydraulic clutch works on a pitster. my pull is so hard its ridiculous lol as long as im riding this i got to get it working premo lol

slayer66

· #18 · Dec 25, 2008

NCC said:
As you can tell I did not answer for Gary, I did not say Pitster did or did not have the product in question, I also did not try and sell said product in a question for Gary thread as you did.

do you go out of your way to be a tool?

HACKMUNCH

· #19 · Dec 25, 2008

here come the cali mafia now! look out.

ROBINSONDB22

· #20 · Dec 25, 2008

slayer66 looks like bam bam bigalow!

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