[raisen727]

how much of a difference in power is there between the tb race head and the takegawa +r?

 

[raisen727]

anyone ?

 

[ibmike13]

Alot! the TB heads valves are 25/22 and the +R head has 28.5/23.5 and much better ports!

 

[raisen727]

thanks ibmike thats what i needed to know

 

[ibmike13]

Wait, i gave you the Valve sizes for the CRF50 heads. The 110 TB valves are 28/23 and the +R valves are 28.5/23.5 but its still a better head ask anyone that ran both.

 

[KLX110rr]

i think the difference is in the CAM you can run with the +R head. Ports might be a little different but 4 strokes are all about the cam.

 

[mtbracer]

The difference is in the CAM.... The +R is the fastest out right now... But the TB head is the best bang for the buck

 

[bsracer101]

the biggest difference is the valve angle to the port.

 

[millbillyfiddy]

Ill let ya know soon. Going to a +R from a TB

 

[Z50King]

no one has said anything about the roller rockers

 

[millbillyfiddy]

no one has said anything about the roller rockers

Yea all that^^^^^^

 

[KLX110rr]

The roller rockers have less friction, yes, but it's the rollers that allow the cam profiles to be much steeper and open the valves much faster.....

 

[raisen727]

Ill let ya know soon. Going to a +R from a TB

ok let me know when u get it.

 

[sxfracer]

i want to here to.

 

[raisen727]

ok i think im goin with the takegawa 138+r kit and what about a carb should i run a flatside cause i heard the d slides are terrible to tune

 

[ibmike13]

F*ck a flat slide piece of crap get a 26mm VM carb kit.

 

[big'n'slow632]

I have had both the TB and the +R heads.....the +R is BY FAR AND AWAY BETTER, IMO. It revs super quick, but with my heavy piston and stroker crank it doesn't pull for too long. But I really like the +R.

 

[raisen727]

I have had both the TB and the +R heads.....the +R is BY FAR AND AWAY BETTER, IMO. It revs super quick, but with my heavy piston and stroker crank it doesn't pull for too long. But I really like the +R.

thanks man i needed some first hand experiance info on both of these

 

[ibmike13]

I dont know what size Valves are in the KLX +R head i have a book that says it has 30/24.5mm valves. I think its wrong in the adds and they have the crf +R valve sizes for the KLX

 

[stik__boy]

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ok i think im goin with the takegawa 138+r kit and what about a carb should i run a flatside cause i heard the d slides are terrible to tune

the D-slide is GREAT IMO. had a 26, and it just didnt respond to changes the way it should have.... D-slide, i make a change, i KNOW if its right/wrong immediately.....