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You'll have to excuse da pimp. A little over a month ago, he was asking me basic engine questions, and now appears he's the expert on everything.
LMAO, Pimp has been Owned by Z88R lol. But yeah it does take away some of your tourque but no wheres near as much as a Inner Rotor will. The shaved flywheel should be just right in letting the engine rev up but not taking to much torque, or traction away.
 

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I think it would be wise to leave the flywheel unshaved and for us to look into shaving weight off of valves and other moving parts in the head through the use of Ti. There is a company that will reproduce in Ti anything you send them. I am going to have the valves and anything else I deem necessary in my TB 88cc head done. That is once I get $420 for that kit!
 

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LMAO



you guys r funny....i said that a lightened flywheel wont hurt you as much in the turns as the inner rotor kit. so where am i wrong??



just because i said it doesnt hurt your torque?? it may take away a cunt hair of torque but the gain in pick up is worth it.



i dont understand how you think im wrong. squids



z88r?? what was i asking you about motors??



yes i got owned......O NO!!!! my life is over....:lol:
 

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z88r



oh yea i forgot about a month ago i was asking you what apiston was and what valves do, and all those other basic engine questions........i think you just need to take your useless posts elsewhere.
 

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Not to get involved here, but Z88R I have to say is one of the people that make the LEAST useless posts! and thats fo sho pimp.
 

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This is forum its meant for talking. Useless posts are more of the ones like..."yup" "okay" "lol"



Now you have been edmucated on useless posts. lol
 

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hey who cares.....im not wrong so who flippin cares....and yes he said nothing to help people out in this thread....useless post....all he did was try and make me look like im an idiot saying that iw as asking him basic engine questions last month.



btw, what is an engine?? i think ill have to ask z88r on this one sice hes been answering all my basic engine qestions for me.



oh i got another brain buster for ya.



where does the rotator split go??? i cant figure out where it goes. im sorry im such a newb at motors.







































































LMAO!
 

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Pimp your motor is done??? WTF??? Someone else builds your motors?? AHHHAHHAHAHAHHA

Dude....you need to do your homework!!!

AHHAHAA

Learn to work on your own motor before you start telling all these people what mods do what for the power!!!
 

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SORRY I DONT HAVE A MACHINE SHOP HERE, NOR DO I HAVE THE TIME TO DO THIS....AND TO LET SOMEONE BUILD MY MOTOR AFTER HE HAS MORE YEARS EXPERIENCE THEN I AM OLD........I THINK YOU JUST NEED TO STOP TRYIN TO LOOK LIKE MR COOL AND DROP IT.





FASTGUY = COOL GUY
 

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dude...idc how experienced you are or how many ct 70's u've changed the oil in, but last time i checked it is difficult to bench flow port a head on an 88se motor let alone jsut have a cnc machine in my garage to shave the flywheel down....but hey, im sorry i forgot that ur the one that does your "homework" so im sure you could hook me up with my 124 dohc and while your at it can you use your "homework" and split the case and bore it out with all of your great machinery???



why dont you think about what he is having done before you open your mouth...hes not having someone just put in the basic big bore...this is a lil different....



JuSt My TwO cEnTz
 

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Here's what I know on this subject.



I just got my machined parts back from PRC and the work is jewelry and top notch. I can't speak for Lahaye, as I've never used him.



I do know that PRC was one of the first companies doing port work for the XR50 here in the US. They aren't the cheapest out there, but in my opinion, are one of the best.



I've been building Honda 50 and 70'cc motors before building motors was cool. I remember when Classic Honda was out of Lyle's Garage and a storage facility. I remember when Powroll was the only game in town, and parts were extremely difficult to come by before websites were popping up all over the place. I remember two bros before they started selling Takegawa parts and only had a big-gun pipe for the Z50!



I've restored a 1967 Honda Z50M, a French Model no less, that took me 2 years to accumulate the parts from all over the world including the Netherlands, Belgium, Japan, France, Australia, and of course the US. For those of you that don't know, the Z50M was launched internationally 1 year before the 1968 Z50K0 was released in the USA.



If I lived in CA, the only person I would take a motor to would be Jeff Tuttobene at minigunz.com. I guarantee he's been building 50cc motors longer than 99% of the mini population, and is one of the nicest guys in the industry. PRC turned my parts around in 10 days, including the time I dropped the box off at FEDEX.



So, for da pimp to waste my time asking me stupid questions via Private Message, I'm entitled to waste his time on subjects that he knows very little about except what others feed him to take his hard-earned cash.



P.S. With my little 108cc Motard, I just topped 70 mph on Sunday on 10 inch street tires, and my total cost to build the motor including all the engine parts was a mere $1200.00. And, I need to regear the bike, as at 70mph, I'm only pushing the bike at 11K rpms.. I'm running a 16/33, and am going to switch it to a 15/33 to get another 1k rpms out of the top end at full bore...



The PRC prepped parts are going into an 88cc motard, and I'll post some dyno graphs when it's all said and done. This motor will have a total build cost of less than $1000 for everything including the clutch, oil pump, cylinder, piston, head, machine work, etc.



Buying off the shelf parts and paying extremely high prices is fun and easy, but to do your homework and build your own combinations is cheaper and more exciting.



I especially like the work KAOS is doing with his bike!
 

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P.S. With my little 108cc Motard, I just topped 70 mph on Sunday on 10 inch street tires, and my total cost to build the motor including all the engine parts was a mere $1200.00. And, I need to regear the bike, as at 70mph, I'm only pushing the bike at 11K rpms.. I'm running a 16/33, and am going to switch it to a 15/33 to get another 1k rpms out of the top end at full bore...


$1200 for 108cc, 70mph ??? Are you using a 5 speed tranny with that engine you built for $1200....



JQ
 

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Let me preface my $1200 investment on my 108 build.



I started with a JDM 4 speed Honda Monkey Motor that came with my bike. Plus, in Japan, average retail is 20% below Kitaco list price, not 20-30% higher like it is over here.



Full Kitaco 108cc Ultrahead Kit, and stuck with a 2 plate manual Clutch which is perfect for road applications and VM26 Carb, Oil Cooler, and Oil Catch tank, and sold off my stock parts.



Starting with an XR50 motor is a tad more expensive.
 
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