[RebelRider corona ca]

right now i have a 88 kit on my 50 its a takegwa



and i have a oil cooler and have a race head but its the 23/20



so i only need a crank and piston correct?



and bigger oil pump right?

 

[lilminis]

bigger carb to... 24 or 26 mm works great. I have a pe24 on my tak106

 

[trtr013]

no no you dont need a bigger carb if you dont want too...a 26 is too much for a 108. talked to FPM and TB and a 20/22 is just fine for a 108. Its all on tuning and what you do. You may want a 24 though. You should already have an oil pump on an 88kit. piston matched to the 23/20 head and then a TB crank. and a 52mm gasket set. gonna sell your 88 kit or no cause prolly keeping the cylinder ya?

 

[lilminis]

I have to diagree I

On the carb people run 26mm on stock klx with good out come 24 or 26 is what you want

 

[RebelRider corona ca]

ok i here 20 is ok but 24 helps with top end so ok



and hmm im not sure if i have a oil pump on my 88



and right now the race head isn't installed just sitting



and all it has is the valves installed on the head



i still need a cam and what ever else a head need sorry dont mean to sound like a noob



soo as far as cam and stuff i need to install my head what do u all recommend?

 

[trtr013]

oh thats why u asked me about that cam...I decided to keep it cause Im not going to buy the 189 from FPM...ya 24 is good for top end but 26 is just too big thats better for 117/124 or a 28 for a 124...granted Ive never ran them Im going off what FPM and others on here said. I am building a 108 this weekend too. Just waiting on a head gasket...I want bottom end thats why I went for a 20mm carb and wanted 189 cam...you have valves, rockers, springs? HD clutch is needed for that displacement so Im hearing.

 

[RebelRider corona ca]

i dont have any rockers or springs and do u really need a hd clutch?



and so a 189 cam is good to run?

 

[trtr013]

189 is good for bottom end and I use my for stunting so thats why i was gonna sell my race cam and get the 189. Damn i hate to say it but the head sounds like it needs well everything. you may wanna just buy one and sell that. cam is 60, Internals are $45, carb, intake is $100, gasket kit $45(has carb stuff and all gaskets so you can do the clutch). Thats already $245+shipping and getting it all installed or having the head assembled. OR take sell your 88 kit(get 100 for it, I got 120 for my Tak FTP kit) and spend $350 getting a complete 88 rh kit fully ready and assembled... so thats $250 or so your paying all new stuff



HD auto clutch ive heard is a must cause they can well blow up. Someone even said the HD on a 108 can blow them up. Thats why they now make the billet basket for them. IDK im going to run my HD clutch for now.

 

[T Bolt USA]

you need the stroker 1 kit and a tbwo365 piston.

let me know if we can help.

 

[RebelRider corona ca]

i heard u dont need a better clutch and i dont ride hard so i think i will be cool on stock



and just need to get head internals i guess i just dont know what cam to run low end or top end???



think im going to throw in a 4 speed and a clutch when i get the money



hmm i wonder how the 20 mm carb will do on a 23/20 head give me more bottom end for cut me short??

 

[trtr013]

Idk see iwas told u do. Well if u do 24 carb do top end cam.idk for carb then.

 

[RebelRider corona ca]

looks like its time to experiment haha

 

[trtr013]

what kinda riding you doin with it. See it all depends...Im using a 20 and a 189 cam for low end for stunting. trails you may want more top end and tracks idk prolly both...bbr 88 kit comes with a 26 so it all depends

 

[RebelRider corona ca]

shoot think im do trail ride more so what u think more top end??

 

[trtr013]

prolly... just go with the racehead cam and the vm24 which is the 4 stroke one...if u really want top end get the tm or whatever the flatslide carb is

 

[RebelRider corona ca]

whats the price difference on those?



so flat side 24 has less then the vm 24 for top end?

 

[trtr013]

no flat slides have more from what I understand. Idk the price difference to be honest.half the stuff I get new I get at dealer cost and half I dont. Depending if tucker rocky or parts unlimited carry or not. So I really dont know. Carbs though I know are a lot cheaper used. Ive spent 2wks researching and talkin to FPM about what todo for me and stunting. And now all of a sudden I decided I dont want to use this whole 52mm top end and race head. For that matter I dont know what todo with the 20mm keihin carb kit i just got. I kinda want a 117 since cheaper than a 124. Same time Idk lol....i change my mind soooo much

 

[trtr013]

check this out idk though....



XR50/CRF50 High Performance Race Head Camshaft 51-211600 - ADA Racing

 

[RiDe]

I was going to get a 108, then Firepower had a deal at the time with a free upgrade to a 117 with free installation, cant beat that! However, if your going to go with a 108, the 24mm carb is the best option imo, my friends tak 106 with the 24 runs great. But my 117 smashes on him for less money too! the 26mm also works well, I believe I saw one for sale in the classfields for $90 not to long ago.

 

[trtr013]

damn when was FPM doing that? I picked up my stroker kit used on here for what I think is a good deal.