[bsracer101]

Can Some Tell Me If Bigger Vavles Have More Top End Or Torque And Why??? Thanks

 

[Kurlon]

Cheap and quick explanation... as the valve size goes up, your flow potential increases, and your flow velocity at any given flow rate decreases. So, you shift the power curve further up the RPM band, and raise the potential peak power.



Thats the QUICK story, it gets murky when you start looking at cam lift, duration, overlap, bore and stroke ratio, bore to valve area ratios, etc.

 

[bsracer101]

Can Vavles Be To Big.

 

[tnpracing]

the bigger the piston and stroke the bigger the valves need to be to be able to flow efficiently!!

 

[fastbmw]

Simple answer is yes, that's why most new cars are 4 valves per cylinder vs 2 valves per cylinder. 4 smaller valves should flow better than 2 large valves.

 

[507 brett]

that wud b kool if they made a 4 valve 110 head.

 

[ibmike13]

One 3 inch pipe out flows 2=2 1/2 pipes.

 

[HACKMUNCH]

4 valve does not make more power than 2 in most cases.

 

[507 brett]

o i was just ponderin the idea

 

[Kurlon]

4 valve does not make more power than 2 in most cases.

A properly setup 4v will out power a 2v for the same bore. And it'll do it with better throttle response off the bottom. Problem we've got with our bikes is the one available 4v head is setup for a 52mm bore, and it doesn't even do a good job of taking advantage of that available space... If someone took the time to move the valve centers further apart... look the fsck out. : )



Oh, and ibmike, the general rule of thumb with intake valves, you take the combined area of the valve faces, and for dual intake valves, add 10%. So based on that, a pair of 19mm intake valves should flow as well as a single 28mm valve. To get that bonus, the twin valves need to have a reasonable distance between each other. (Otherwise they can actually impede their own flow.) Twin valve setups also expose more circumference when opening, giving them better initial flow than an equivalent sized single valve. They are a bit trickier setups to get right, but once you do, there is no comparison to a single intake valve setup.

 

[turboglenn]

A properly setup 4v will out power a 2v for the same bore. And it'll do it with better throttle response off the bottom. Problem we've got with our bikes is the one available 4v head is setup for a 52mm bore, and it doesn't even do a good job of taking advantage of that available space... If someone took the time to move the valve centers further apart... look the fsck out. : )



Oh, and ibmike, the general rule of thumb with intake valves, you take the combined area of the valve faces, and for dual intake valves, add 10%. So based on that, a pair of 19mm intake valves should flow as well as a single 28mm valve. To get that bonus, the twin valves need to have a reasonable distance between each other. (Otherwise they can actually impede their own flow.) Twin valve setups also expose more circumference when opening, giving them better initial flow than an equivalent sized single valve. They are a bit trickier setups to get right, but once you do, there is no comparison to a single intake valve setup.

very true...that's what makes it so confusing ( or just weird ) when working on Porsche engines, they were making almost 400 horse on pump gas with 2 valve air cooled motors in 1994-95... ( turbo of course, but still impressive )