No, I would not lie to you. I am not really sponsored by them either. I have gotten to know the guys at the shop real well and just happened to live about 15-20 minutes away. It just so happened that I was going to Las Vegas to race and ended up hauling 21 fifties down there, 15 of those were the BBR perimiter framed Las Vegas bikes. Since then we have become good horse trading buddies.....I help them and they help me. Regardless of what they do for me I am telling you guys at BBR are not the corporate guys in suits that you think they might be, they are the same as you and me. They just happened to be really lucky to have a successfull buisness that allows them to ride and make bike parts for a living. Off topic, I still have my super pro frame for sale.