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X7rocks

ok just want a guick opinion i found a motor for a YSR for 100 dollars and wonderinf if i should start a build from there then work my way up
but then for the 200cc lifan motorcycle its 1 grand (my price work at the dealer)and i can put down payment of only 100 dollars and have it all myne in one shot
i know how to make the bike last a long time so durability isnt a issue for me its just i want a opinion of what is good or bad
i even put down my race bike to sit for some time until i can get money for both item

shawnbassett26

You can get lifan 200cc for a lot less than a 1K new. If i were you id hold out for a real XR200 motor, i bought mine for $180. Plus the honda motors are 6speed and the lifans are 5 speed. The stock YSR motors WILL lock up on you. They are time bombs. So if you want to go with the stock motor for everyday use you will need to weld you crank and have it balanced by TRC or have then build you a motor. Good luck.
~Shawn

X7rocks

well the bike i can get for 1 grand is this bike
http://www.extreme-scooters.com/chop...M-LEcolors.jpg

looks like a oldschool motorcycle sure but ive worked on a few and they seem to run into alote less problems then other bikes i see from china

fifty_tony

YSR motors are not time bombs. I raced and ran a YSR racing team in the late 80's.I had 10 YSR's three 60cc three stock 50's and three water cooled 80's and a street one with a air cooled 80 in it. I can build a 60 motor that would kill your four stroke's.And it will last.....I worked for Yamaha. And my water cooled 80's were clocked at 105mph on the track.

firepower354

A pounded YSR that hasn't broken a crank, will... Also, it ain't gonna hang with a 200+cc 4 stroke, in daily use, even if you worked for NASA

Pretty sure most XR's were 5 speeds.

fifty_tony

My street air cooled 80 would hang with a 200 all day in daily use...Two strokes can be made to last it's all in the jetting.I never broke a crank once it was jetted right. What the hell does NASA have to do with it I worked for Yamaha almost twenty years on and off.We are talking motorcycles not flying I can rebuild a two stroke for half the money.

shawnbassett26

"YSR motors are not time bombs. I raced and ran a YSR racing team in the late 80's.I had 10 YSR's three 60cc three stock 50's and three water cooled 80's and a street one with a air cooled 80 in it. I can build a 60 motor that would kill your four stroke's.And it will last.....I worked for Yamaha. And my water cooled 80's were clocked at 105mph on the track."

Who the HELL are you? We could be back and fourth ALL day about if they were booms or not. You dont have to impress me with you owning 10 Ysrs, racing, working for yamaha, ect. belive you me GUY, my cred list is ALOT longer than yours and im sure im half you age. I highly dought that you 60 will keep up with my built 200. Id almost make to trip to see that ! You my friend are off you rocker. Please take your sorry excuse for a babys p&nis and go bother some one else with your time.

"Pretty sure most XR's were 5 speeds."
Alot of the XR200 were, most XR100 were not except some (Japan only modles) and NSF100 i belive.


X7rocks, im sorry i miss understood you before. I tought you want to know weather to buy a YSR motor or and XR200 motor. I deff go with a YSR than a chiness bike. X7rocks, spoke with ronnie on the frame and he told me $150 for the frame and cradle. I want it, but id rather see you buy it than by a lifan bike. Good luck with your build/purchace. Any questions you have let me know.

~Shawn

X7rocks

well if you can help me find a busted YSR i would take one i love the sound of 2 strokes but as far as being together now the china bike is winning

X7rocks

shawn i pmed you for some info
if this bike can last and i dont get pulled over alote i will take the chance of building one

fifty_tony

Shawn Sorry that was not my intent to piss you off.But having worked for and raced Yamaha YSR's when they were new we never had trouble with them in stock form.When you hopped them up you could have trouble if you did not know how to do it right.But then to call me name's thats just shows your age...I will not go at you like that... Just so you know I have been working at motorcycle shops long before you came to be...But you must be the motorcycle GOD..I AM SORRY TO UPSET YOU.

Kurlon

Based on recent reading, it seems 185s and 200s were more commonly 6 speeds across the pond?

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shawnbassett26

"But you must be the motorcycle GOD..I AM SORRY TO UPSET YOU." I thought you knew?

Not your intent? read your 1st post over old timer and make sure you have you glasses on........

You are funny to me. You keep trying to impress me with your old age.... i could care less that you think you know more that me, this wipper snapper would suprise you, and as for as racing...... i asure you id run circles arround you sir....
~Shawn

shawnbassett26

Not sure about across the pond, havnt done alot of overseas research. As far as the XR200 they were both 5 and 6 speed modles.
~Shawn

fifty_tony

Shawn your right I'm not fast..But I can build a hell of a YSR in my day. And it was a two stroke...So I'm old school. I need to step aside and let the kids take over your right.

randomguy310

the ysr motor is not a time bomb, ive put lots of street miles , 8k on my bike over the yrs and never had one seize, i have had my bike for 15 yrs. same thing with the oil injection... never had a problem with it. kind of a shame everyone has to swap to a non 2 stroke motor let alone another brand...

firepower354

In Delaware?

Sorry, X7's in Maryland

Sure a 4 stroke, especially a Honda, is a little bit heretical, but unless you're going to trick a 82-back RD125 twin, you might as well thump it. Too few guys cool enough to pull that off. Blaster swaps are fun, but pipe needs vs space sucks.

shawnbassett26

"the ysr motor is not a time bomb, ive put lots of street miles , 8k on my bike over the yrs and never had one seize, i have had my bike for 15 yrs. same thing with the oil injection... never had a problem with it. kind of a shame everyone has to swap to a non 2 stroke motor let alone another brand..."

For a general accross the board most YSR motors (about 6K 7K miles) the crank comes apart. For someone who have been arround YSRs for awhile and you have never heard of the common problem? Why dose TCR offer a service to weld and balance the crank? Call em. Also you think the oil injection is realiable? That thing is crap! Nothing but problems......... yeah there will be exceptions with a "stock" YSR motor. But from my experience, unless you build a YSR motor, they are crap.

Why is it kinda sad that 4 stroks are popullar? There is still alot of people with 2smokes still and who cares what brand motor it is. I didnt build my bike for you nor anyone else. Go build you own so i can complain........
~Shawn

randomguy310

1st off calm down.. they are not time bombs... its a 2 stroke that turns 14k at times.. there going to break... but to say there junk and time bombs is not true.. and there is nothing wrong that you want to put what ever motor you want in yours.., you did a really nice job i like the way you did it all, its just my opinon and nothing more but you should not take evrthing you read as a insult or a hit against you... and i didnt complain about anything you did to your bike , you need to relax and not get all wound up

BlackBeard

If thats not bagging on the build i dont know what is

randomguy310

well wasnt saying anything directed towards him just my opinon, i really like all the work he has done, look top quality... soforget i said anything .. he just seemd pi$$ed before i said anything.... didnt mean to offend