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firepower354 · 03-30-2008, 10:21 AM

Would there be any interest in a bolt-on 109cc kit with a ported 29/24 head?

McChazan · 03-30-2008, 05:56 PM

Hell ya how much?

firepower354 · 03-30-2008, 06:29 PM

About $350. Should have pics in a week or so.

SUPERMOTARD29 · 03-30-2008, 08:23 PM

no way !!!!
you did it!!
how does it run?

Bri6672 · 04-01-2008, 01:03 PM

I would love to see it. Any performance reviews would be awsome!

firepower354 · 04-01-2008, 06:38 PM

I'm waiting on the pistons. It's a modified Lifan BV head, ported with o/s valves. It has a bearing cam, and straighter and larger ports. Won't fit a XR frame, but runs right up the middle of a NSF or lowly YSR. Just checking interest before I make more than the first one.

adamysr · 04-01-2008, 09:07 PM

PRC in florida has a 110cc kit for the 100 motors, whats different about your kit, not trying to be offensive, just wondering

Z · 04-01-2008, 09:21 PM

Trailbikes sells a 115cc kit that utilizes the stock head for the NSF100 as well.

Fire - It sounds like the kit you are developing includes a different head. Just be aware if you market your services here, you'll be paying to advertise...

firepower354 · 04-01-2008, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z

Trailbikes sells a 115cc kit that utilizes the stock head for the NSF100 as well.

Fire - It sounds like the kit you are developing includes a different head. Just be aware if you market your services here, you'll be paying to advertise...

That's the thing, the stock head is a turd that won't take a polish, not even a dull shine. Small valves placed too close together, a horrible offset port, and the bearing-less dealio. Like Uncle Eddie always said "You can't make chicken salad outta chicken zh!t, not GOOD chicken salad anyway".

And 115cc won't fit a 110cc class limit, without a little de-stroking, but that's another story

It's a Lifan BVH modded to bolt to an XR barrel, with the right domed piston to make it squeeze ok. Only one so far, and it's not 100% ready. I'm still sorting cam sprockets vs deck height issues. 14/28, 15/30, and 16/32, wanna get the tensioner to work just right. Might even end up with a long-rod 80 crank instead to save some lathe work going all Jenny Craig on the 100 lump.

I wouldn't dream of skirting the payola, and would just be offing some parts I have and decided I'm not going to use.

Just feeling around

McChazan · 04-04-2008, 03:22 PM

Oops, I thought u were talkn bout an NSR.

scorpio · 04-07-2008, 12:20 PM

I'd definetly be interested depending on work involved and power output vs. the powroll 110 kit for the XR100:
POWROLL PRODUCTS FOR THE HONDA XR100 2001-CURRENT

firepower354 · 04-07-2008, 07:30 PM

The stock head is a turd. Powroll adds compression, but still gonna have little ports and valves.

firepower354 · 04-12-2008, 08:54 PM

Sweet! Yet another reason to hate the lame-azz stock head. The 118 I built for the neighbor kid's 80 stopped running. I peeked at the top end today. Web 69/68 was blue. Not a good sign. Ported head, cam, rockers all junk. Looked like an oiling issue, and the lack of bearings on the cam made a bad deal go worse.

stik__boy · 04-13-2008, 07:15 AM

yeah.... have seen numerous stock xr100 head issues on road racers. on low rpm "trail use" bikes its probably never an issue. built a 115 superhead motor for a friend 2 years ago. it ripped. the stock head on most of the 4strokes is the issue, but the 100 is horrible..... like we all dont know that.....

LasVegasStreetterror · 04-13-2008, 11:44 AM

anybody else ever use the takegawa super head on the crf/xr/nsf 100 ?? I am doing a build for a friend now and I am wondering how far the takegawa 115 cylinder can be bored to before I order it ??

firepower354 · 04-13-2008, 05:58 PM

Hundreds of them out there...

The 115 kits are about maxed for bore. The case hole ID is too small for a big meaty sleeve. You can sleeve one offset, and bore the cases to the edge of disaster and get about 60mm bore. I know a guy trying a SCUT type setup too

There's room to throw a bunch more crank around in there though.

Gabriel H · 08-07-2008, 10:40 PM

I'd be interested in a 110. BTW, has anyone heard of a 107cc kit for ans NSF100?

firepower354 · 08-08-2008, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabriel H

I'd be interested in a 110. BTW, has anyone heard of a 107cc kit for ans NSF100?

The swap is still not complete. Machine time has been an issue, lately.

2mm overbored stocker is 107. Pretty common. Powroll has one, but for the stock (lame) head.

I've got a bottom end with a light crank and 80 trans for sale, too, if you're looking for a little more Zing.

03-30-2008, 10:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
firepower354 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 6,076	NSF100 110cc legal race head kit Would there be any interest in a bolt-on 109cc kit with a ported 29/24 head?

03-30-2008, 05:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
McChazan PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wooster, Ohio Posts: 16	Re: NSF100 110cc legal race head kit Hell ya how much?

03-30-2008, 06:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
firepower354 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 6,076	Re: NSF100 110cc legal race head kit About $350. Should have pics in a week or so.

03-30-2008, 08:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
SUPERMOTARD29 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: houston tx Posts: 311	Re: NSF100 110cc legal race head kit no way !!!! you did it!! how does it run?

04-01-2008, 01:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
Bri6672 PM Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 56	Re: NSF100 110cc legal race head kit I would love to see it. Any performance reviews would be awsome!

04-01-2008, 06:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
firepower354 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 6,076	Re: NSF100 110cc legal race head kit I'm waiting on the pistons. It's a modified Lifan BV head, ported with o/s valves. It has a bearing cam, and straighter and larger ports. Won't fit a XR frame, but runs right up the middle of a NSF or lowly YSR. Just checking interest before I make more than the first one.

04-01-2008, 09:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
adamysr 1st Gear Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 141	Re: NSF100 110cc legal race head kit PRC in florida has a 110cc kit for the 100 motors, whats different about your kit, not trying to be offensive, just wondering

04-01-2008, 09:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
Z 5th Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: KANSAS Posts: 7,205	Re: NSF100 110cc legal race head kit Trailbikes sells a 115cc kit that utilizes the stock head for the NSF100 as well. Fire - It sounds like the kit you are developing includes a different head. Just be aware if you market your services here, you'll be paying to advertise...

04-04-2008, 03:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
McChazan PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wooster, Ohio Posts: 16	Re: NSF100 110cc legal race head kit Oops, I thought u were talkn bout an NSR.

04-07-2008, 12:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
scorpio PM Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 42	Re: NSF100 110cc legal race head kit I'd definetly be interested depending on work involved and power output vs. the powroll 110 kit for the XR100: POWROLL PRODUCTS FOR THE HONDA XR100 2001-CURRENT

04-07-2008, 07:30 PM	#12 (permalink)
firepower354 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 6,076	Re: NSF100 110cc legal race head kit The stock head is a turd. Powroll adds compression, but still gonna have little ports and valves.

04-12-2008, 08:54 PM	#13 (permalink)
firepower354 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 6,076	Re: NSF100 110cc legal race head kit Sweet! Yet another reason to hate the lame-azz stock head. The 118 I built for the neighbor kid's 80 stopped running. I peeked at the top end today. Web 69/68 was blue. Not a good sign. Ported head, cam, rockers all junk. Looked like an oiling issue, and the lack of bearings on the cam made a bad deal go worse.

04-13-2008, 07:15 AM	#14 (permalink)
stik__boy 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: wisconsin Posts: 829	Re: NSF100 110cc legal race head kit yeah.... have seen numerous stock xr100 head issues on road racers. on low rpm "trail use" bikes its probably never an issue. built a 115 superhead motor for a friend 2 years ago. it ripped. the stock head on most of the 4strokes is the issue, but the 100 is horrible..... like we all dont know that.....

04-13-2008, 11:44 AM	#15 (permalink)
LasVegasStreetterror 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 424	Re: NSF100 110cc legal race head kit anybody else ever use the takegawa super head on the crf/xr/nsf 100 ?? I am doing a build for a friend now and I am wondering how far the takegawa 115 cylinder can be bored to before I order it ??

04-13-2008, 05:58 PM	#16 (permalink)
firepower354 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 6,076	Re: NSF100 110cc legal race head kit Hundreds of them out there... The 115 kits are about maxed for bore. The case hole ID is too small for a big meaty sleeve. You can sleeve one offset, and bore the cases to the edge of disaster and get about 60mm bore. I know a guy trying a SCUT type setup too There's room to throw a bunch more crank around in there though.

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08-07-2008, 10:40 PM	#17 (permalink)
Gabriel H PM Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Huntington Park Posts: 1	Re: NSF100 110cc legal race head kit I'd be interested in a 110. BTW, has anyone heard of a 107cc kit for ans NSF100?