Planet Minis

Cbr_Up_On_1 · 06-08-2007, 10:57 PM

I just ordered up the Red Baron setup, lookin for heavy duty wheels and hub and found this....pretty stoked, getting discounted too with a black wheel.

Factory Rear Hub Kit w/ Hand Disc Brake Kit
– Billet rear hub with disc brake carrier.
– Black hub with engraved RB logo.
– Brake lever mounts on left side of handlebar.
– 10" heavy duty spokes.
– Includes complete hydraulic brake kit.
and the front.

mattv · 06-09-2007, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyP

Its bolted to where the resivior cap used to be, just like HB's for big bikes....I also had to weld up the brake fluid sight window...It is a bitch to bleed thou as there are no bleed nipples anywhere in the system...

I always bleed my hydro brakes by pumping and loosen/tighten the banjo bolt on the caliper itself. I never use the nipples to bleed. It always takes forever and i seem to have air in the system no matter what.

killinthafiddy · 06-22-2007, 06:39 PM

any pics of the whole bike? im thinkin of painting my frame white.

35yoldfiddyrider · 08-03-2007, 10:31 AM

Awesome Set Up Man!

Kurlon · 08-03-2007, 10:49 AM

Why not use an untouched brake master, and place both lines on the same banjo bolt using a taller banjo? They make banjo bolts designed for two lines for front brake applications so the parts exist off the shelf, with bleeders even.

turboglenn · 08-03-2007, 05:16 PM

that's a good idea kurlon, but i think that when the rear pedal isn't being touched you would just be pushing fluid into the other master ( at the foot) you need some way to make one line a one way valve when the other is actuated for that to work i would imagine anyway

teddy · 08-10-2007, 08:00 AM

Heres the unit i have from GPTechllc.com I don't stunt but do miniRR and this is truely the ticket for ETREME late braking efforts and shaving some speed mid-corner. I guess if you needed that rear brake for stunting it would just fine as GPTech is selling these as a stunters product. Installs on any rear NISSIN rear master cyclinder right where the resevior used to tie in.

50-50 · 08-10-2007, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by teddy

Heres the unit i have from GPTechllc.com I don't stunt but do miniRR and this is truely the ticket for ETREME late braking efforts and shaving some speed mid-corner. I guess if you needed that rear brake for stunting it would just fine as GPTech is selling these as a stunters product. Installs on any rear NISSIN rear master cyclinder right where the resevior used to tie in.

That's a sweet setup. I would think that a hydraulic handbrake would be too touchy for stunting a pitbike because they are so light, but I could be wrong.

teddy · 08-10-2007, 05:57 PM

This rig comes with a Brembo master cylinder and the trick little master cylinder cover complete with lever and all the other goods to make it work.

Touchy............ no not really its very mellow along with being very predictable.

Its sort of a GPTech version of the "Recluse" thing.

I can't even understand why any motorcycle would not have a left hand rear brake lever setup???????????????????????????????????

I'll be hooking up all my bikes over the next few months either hyd or cable operated systems. Imagine how easy it would be to turn right on a dirt bike while being able to use the rear brake

teddy · 08-11-2007, 03:46 PM

Okay i snapped a few more pics today.The question of the fluid preasure is simple. The bar mounted resivoir becomes the main resivoir and any pressure just stop there. fluid can only compress so much and its very little. You will not even notice it with your foot operated lever, on a full sized bike the hand lever or thumb brakes will usually not lock up the rear wheel.

Again i'm no stunter but any way you can make a left hand actuated rear brake unit has got to be cool, ever seen a bicycle with a rear brake lever? No. So why should a motorcycle?

A25MX · 08-11-2007, 04:04 PM

My bicycle has a rear brake lever...

50-50 · 08-11-2007, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teddy

Okay i snapped a few more pics today.The question of the fluid preasure is simple. The bar mounted resivoir becomes the main resivoir and any pressure just stop there. fluid can only compress so much and its very little. You will not even notice it with your foot operated lever, on a full sized bike the hand lever or thumb brakes will usually not lock up the rear wheel.

Again i'm no stunter but any way you can make a left hand actuated rear brake unit has got to be cool, ever seen a bicycle with a rear brake lever? No. So why should a motorcycle?

Doesn't almost every bicycle have a rear hand brake??? The only ones that I know of that don't have a rear hand brake are the bikes that have coaster brakes...

~E · 08-11-2007, 06:50 PM

I think he is talking about a foot lever... but what he forgot is that bicycle have cranks that rotate, plus they NEVER have a clutch lever to worry about. That is why they are different. I am not saying change is bad, I am all for it and even contemplated a thumb lever for my bike.

teddy · 08-11-2007, 07:53 PM

you know i meant a foot operated rear brake lever

Man it took me about 10 laps to get the hang of the rear hand brake lever and i only use the clutch for starting out of the pit or off the line for a race. no need to use it for shifting while racing. I can only imagine how cool its gonna be to have a rear hand operated brake lever on my DR350 and some other toys

50-50 · 08-12-2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by teddy

you know i meant a foot operated rear brake lever

No, I had no idea you were talking about a foot operated rear brake. I would call that a petal. A brake lever, to me, is something that is hand operated. Therein lies the confusion...

teddy · 08-13-2007, 06:35 AM

it was just sort of a joke

of coarse peddal bikes don't have a rear foot operated brake lever and so motorcycles should not have them either imho.

My peddal bikes have the front brake lever on the right side and rear brake on the left side, most bikes come with it opposite of a motorcycle! I started changing mine about 14 years ago and when ever i buy a new bike.

Anyhow i really do like the rear hand brake options that are plentiful these days

50-50 · 08-13-2007, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teddy

it was just sort of a joke

of coarse peddal bikes don't have a rear foot operated brake lever and so motorcycles should not have them either imho.

My peddal bikes have the front brake lever on the right side and rear brake on the left side, most bikes come with it opposite of a motorcycle! I started changing mine about 14 years ago and when ever i buy a new bike.

Anyhow i really do like the rear hand brake options that are plentiful these days

I never understood why the bicycle front brake was on the opposite side either. But the reason more motorcycles don't have rear hand brakes, and instead have foot brakes, is because most have clutches. Bicycles don't have clutches.

teddy · 08-14-2007, 05:50 PM

yeah well i understand............ but its still lame to not have a dual set-up on yer left bar

If you can't use it then how are you going to use both your hands and feet to brake, shift, throttle etc....

I really do like the thumb brakes and now these kind of options for the rear brake.

Balance is so crutial from your feet on the pegs for RR and in the dirt sliding for MX

like i said anything that makes you faster or more stuntable is a good thing

06-08-2007, 10:57 PM	#21 (permalink)
Cbr_Up_On_1 PM Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3	Re: hydraulic hand brake.... I just ordered up the Red Baron setup, lookin for heavy duty wheels and hub and found this....pretty stoked, getting discounted too with a black wheel. Factory Rear Hub Kit w/ Hand Disc Brake Kit – Billet rear hub with disc brake carrier. – Black hub with engraved RB logo. – Brake lever mounts on left side of handlebar. – 10" heavy duty spokes. – Includes complete hydraulic brake kit. and the front.

06-22-2007, 06:39 PM	#23 (permalink)
killinthafiddy PM Newbie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 30	Re: hydraulic hand brake.... any pics of the whole bike? im thinkin of painting my frame white.

08-03-2007, 10:31 AM	#24 (permalink)
35yoldfiddyrider 1st Gear Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: MICHIGAN Posts: 105	Re: hydraulic hand brake.... Awesome Set Up Man!

08-03-2007, 10:49 AM	#25 (permalink)
Kurlon Baron Von BanHammer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Windham, ME Posts: 7,857	Re: hydraulic hand brake.... Why not use an untouched brake master, and place both lines on the same banjo bolt using a taller banjo? They make banjo bolts designed for two lines for front brake applications so the parts exist off the shelf, with bleeders even. __________________ http://www.x386.net/TTR 2004 ST3 - 'Duckie'?!?! 2005 CRF70RR - MiniGP Weapon 2005 CRF70 - Dirt Donk 2008 Pitster Pro X4 Motard 1991 GS500E - LRRS/CCS #771

08-03-2007, 05:16 PM	#26 (permalink)
turboglenn 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,928	Re: hydraulic hand brake.... that's a good idea kurlon, but i think that when the rear pedal isn't being touched you would just be pushing fluid into the other master ( at the foot) you need some way to make one line a one way valve when the other is actuated for that to work i would imagine anyway

08-10-2007, 05:57 PM	#29 (permalink)
teddy 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: southeast MI. Posts: 1,268	Re: hydraulic hand brake.... This rig comes with a Brembo master cylinder and the trick little master cylinder cover complete with lever and all the other goods to make it work. Touchy............ no not really its very mellow along with being very predictable. Its sort of a GPTech version of the "Recluse" thing. I can't even understand why any motorcycle would not have a left hand rear brake lever setup??????????????????????????????????? I'll be hooking up all my bikes over the next few months either hyd or cable operated systems. Imagine how easy it would be to turn right on a dirt bike while being able to use the rear brake

08-11-2007, 04:04 PM	#31 (permalink)
A25MX 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 1,018	Re: hydraulic hand brake.... My bicycle has a rear brake lever...

08-11-2007, 06:50 PM	#33 (permalink)
~E perpetratin' Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Juan Capo, CA Posts: 1,971	Re: hydraulic hand brake.... I think he is talking about a foot lever... but what he forgot is that bicycle have cranks that rotate, plus they NEVER have a clutch lever to worry about. That is why they are different. I am not saying change is bad, I am all for it and even contemplated a thumb lever for my bike.

08-11-2007, 07:53 PM	#34 (permalink)
teddy 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: southeast MI. Posts: 1,268	Re: hydraulic hand brake.... you know i meant a foot operated rear brake lever Man it took me about 10 laps to get the hang of the rear hand brake lever and i only use the clutch for starting out of the pit or off the line for a race. no need to use it for shifting while racing. I can only imagine how cool its gonna be to have a rear hand operated brake lever on my DR350 and some other toys

08-13-2007, 06:35 AM	#36 (permalink)
teddy 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: southeast MI. Posts: 1,268	Re: hydraulic hand brake.... it was just sort of a joke of coarse peddal bikes don't have a rear foot operated brake lever and so motorcycles should not have them either imho. My peddal bikes have the front brake lever on the right side and rear brake on the left side, most bikes come with it opposite of a motorcycle! I started changing mine about 14 years ago and when ever i buy a new bike. Anyhow i really do like the rear hand brake options that are plentiful these days

08-14-2007, 05:50 PM	#38 (permalink)
teddy 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: southeast MI. Posts: 1,268	Re: hydraulic hand brake.... yeah well i understand............ but its still lame to not have a dual set-up on yer left bar If you can't use it then how are you going to use both your hands and feet to brake, shift, throttle etc.... I really do like the thumb brakes and now these kind of options for the rear brake. Balance is so crutial from your feet on the pegs for RR and in the dirt sliding for MX like i said anything that makes you faster or more stuntable is a good thing

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