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rlm996 · 08-29-2008, 10:43 PM

Isn't this taking some of the fun out of the whole pitbike thing? If you want that much power you should be riding a real bike, not a pitbike. I have considered trying to race a pitbike, but figure that since I only have a 125 that it would be pretty much pointless with motors like these around. Kinda like running a 450 in a 150 class. There needs to be some type of motor classification very soon. While I think a motor like this would be cool in a pitbike, it really doesn't make much sense.

matty88 · 08-29-2008, 10:49 PM

i agree !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kawirider359 · 08-29-2008, 10:51 PM

Yeah, classes by engine size would be sweet.

rlm996 · 08-30-2008, 07:49 PM

Heck I just read about some one who claims to have a 190 something in their bike........Geeze where does it stop?

NCC · 08-30-2008, 08:19 PM

In most cases it is supply and demand, in this case it is demand and supply.
Not everyone needs or wants a big engine, but when someone ask for one, someone will be there to fill the need. We currently do fill those request.
Our 177,180,184, 192s have proven strong and reliable.
You probably will not like my 208cc GPX engine We are currently working on now?

rlm996 · 08-30-2008, 09:02 PM

Holy CRAP!!!!!!

rlm996 · 08-30-2008, 09:06 PM

I can see the want for a big engine, but it's getting (or gotten) out of hand in the competition department. I see the same thing happening with pitbikes that I saw happen with paintball a few years back. The guns went electronic, the rate of fire went thru the roof, and the fun went out the door. It's happening here also and you vendors are to blame.....

minirdr · 08-30-2008, 09:16 PM

buy a stock yx150 or lifan150 and stop crying.

billwas1 · 08-30-2008, 09:18 PM

That's not true, look at the major car companies. They still pump out a lot of V8 engines. Some customers want or need them. Just like NCC said. Supply and Demand. I still think racing should be by engine class, size however.

rlm996 · 08-30-2008, 09:19 PM

minirdr
I'm not crying, but what you just said proves my point exactly. I want a GPX150. Personally I feel that should be about the limit for competition. Anything bigger is not a "pitbike" anymore.

rlm996 · 08-30-2008, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by billwas1

That's not true, look at the major car companies. They still pump out a lot of V8 engines. Some customers want or need them. Just like NCC said. Supply and Demand. I still think racing should be by engine class, size however.

True, but they aren't bumping the displacement every year (or month) to try and out do each other. Could you imagine a stock street worthy Mustang with a 10 liter V8? Sure it would be cool, but geeze.

357 Racing · 08-30-2008, 09:44 PM

NCC when are you going to start selling all those parts and stuff at tbolt? You not having problems with high cc motors? Or are you just running a de-comp?

ROBINSONDB22 · 08-30-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rlm996

True, but they aren't bumping the displacement every year (or month) to try and out do each other. Could you imagine a stock street worthy Mustang with a 10 liter V8? Sure it would be cool, but geeze.

really? how bout the 500hp v series caddy's or the 7 liter corvette or the viper v-10 or w-12 quad turbo bugatti veyron they're always doing it and they are using turbos and superchargers and upping displacement but in the racing world there are motor regulations and I think they need to add another class in the pitbike world

rlm996 · 08-30-2008, 09:53 PM

Yes, there are ultra high hp cars out there but they don't all run in the same class............this is my point. Not one of the cars that you mentioned would race against a Mustang. The Vette, Viper, and Bugatti are all GT1 cars. Not sure about the Caddy. A Mustang is only a GT3, or GT2 at best.

ROBINSONDB22 · 08-30-2008, 09:55 PM

my mazda could race against your mustang. cars are 75% suspension and 25% HP.

BlackBeard · 08-30-2008, 10:06 PM

I agree but this topic is so vast theres no way to satisfy it, i always thought it would be great to limit the 10in bikes to a 124cc max and limit the 12in bikes at 165cc max

ROBINSONDB22 · 08-30-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by zbbt

I agree but this topic is so vast theres no way to satisfy it, i always thought it would be great to limit the 10in bikes to a 124cc max and limit the 12in bikes at 165cc max

what about an open class?

BlackBeard · 08-30-2008, 10:08 PM

those would be open class for wheel size.

ROBINSONDB22 · 08-30-2008, 10:11 PM

i like your idea but i'd like to also see a class where you can line up your 205cc and run it.

Jthomas7 · 08-30-2008, 10:11 PM

If you start limiting the motor size unfortunately you're going to have a gate full of cheater bikes.

08-29-2008, 10:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
rlm996 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SWL Michigan Posts: 358	Gpx177 ?? Isn't this taking some of the fun out of the whole pitbike thing? If you want that much power you should be riding a real bike, not a pitbike. I have considered trying to race a pitbike, but figure that since I only have a 125 that it would be pretty much pointless with motors like these around. Kinda like running a 450 in a 150 class. There needs to be some type of motor classification very soon. While I think a motor like this would be cool in a pitbike, it really doesn't make much sense.

08-29-2008, 10:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
matty88 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ontario canada f@ckin eh!! Posts: 613	Re: Gpx177 ?? i agree !!!!!!!!!!!!!

08-29-2008, 10:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
Kawirider359 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Mass Posts: 647	Re: Gpx177 ?? Yeah, classes by engine size would be sweet.

08-30-2008, 07:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
rlm996 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SWL Michigan Posts: 358	Re: Gpx177 ?? Heck I just read about some one who claims to have a 190 something in their bike........Geeze where does it stop?

08-30-2008, 08:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
NCC Advertiser Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: north platte nebraska Posts: 987	Re: Gpx177 ?? In most cases it is supply and demand, in this case it is demand and supply. Not everyone needs or wants a big engine, but when someone ask for one, someone will be there to fill the need. We currently do fill those request. Our 177,180,184, 192s have proven strong and reliable. You probably will not like my 208cc GPX engine We are currently working on now? __________________ NCC PM me or email nebraskacustomcycles@yahoo.com Last edited by NCC; 08-30-2008 at 08:21 PM.

08-30-2008, 09:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
rlm996 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SWL Michigan Posts: 358	Re: Gpx177 ?? Holy CRAP!!!!!!

08-30-2008, 09:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
rlm996 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SWL Michigan Posts: 358	Re: Gpx177 ?? I can see the want for a big engine, but it's getting (or gotten) out of hand in the competition department. I see the same thing happening with pitbikes that I saw happen with paintball a few years back. The guns went electronic, the rate of fire went thru the roof, and the fun went out the door. It's happening here also and you vendors are to blame.....

08-30-2008, 09:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
minirdr 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: massachusetts Posts: 1,522	Re: Gpx177 ?? buy a stock yx150 or lifan150 and stop crying.

08-30-2008, 09:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
billwas1 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saginaw, MI Posts: 361	Re: Gpx177 ?? That's not true, look at the major car companies. They still pump out a lot of V8 engines. Some customers want or need them. Just like NCC said. Supply and Demand. I still think racing should be by engine class, size however.

08-30-2008, 09:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
rlm996 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SWL Michigan Posts: 358	Re: Gpx177 ?? minirdr I'm not crying, but what you just said proves my point exactly. I want a GPX150. Personally I feel that should be about the limit for competition. Anything bigger is not a "pitbike" anymore. Last edited by rlm996; 08-30-2008 at 09:22 PM.

08-30-2008, 09:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
357 Racing 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 3,573	Re: Gpx177 ?? NCC when are you going to start selling all those parts and stuff at tbolt? You not having problems with high cc motors? Or are you just running a de-comp?

08-30-2008, 09:53 PM	#14 (permalink)
rlm996 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SWL Michigan Posts: 358	Re: Gpx177 ?? Yes, there are ultra high hp cars out there but they don't all run in the same class............this is my point. Not one of the cars that you mentioned would race against a Mustang. The Vette, Viper, and Bugatti are all GT1 cars. Not sure about the Caddy. A Mustang is only a GT3, or GT2 at best. Last edited by rlm996; 08-30-2008 at 09:56 PM.

08-30-2008, 09:55 PM	#15 (permalink)
ROBINSONDB22 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: KILLumbus, Ohio Posts: 2,463	Re: Gpx177 ?? my mazda could race against your mustang. cars are 75% suspension and 25% HP.

08-30-2008, 10:06 PM	#16 (permalink)
BlackBeard "ZBBT" Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: 50 riders Posts: 1,772	Re: Gpx177 ?? I agree but this topic is so vast theres no way to satisfy it, i always thought it would be great to limit the 10in bikes to a 124cc max and limit the 12in bikes at 165cc max

08-30-2008, 10:08 PM	#18 (permalink)
BlackBeard "ZBBT" Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: 50 riders Posts: 1,772	Re: Gpx177 ?? those would be open class for wheel size.

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08-30-2008, 10:11 PM	#19 (permalink)
ROBINSONDB22 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: KILLumbus, Ohio Posts: 2,463	Re: Gpx177 ?? i like your idea but i'd like to also see a class where you can line up your 205cc and run it.

08-30-2008, 10:11 PM	#20 (permalink)
Jthomas7 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ponca City, Oklahoma Posts: 539	Re: Gpx177 ?? If you start limiting the motor size unfortunately you're going to have a gate full of cheater bikes.