Planet Minis

stik__boy · 07-07-2008, 06:31 PM

not that you didnt probably already know this..... but the 4 valve kills the +r..... im talking 143 vs 138...... same drive up the back straight at USA int, and he pulled from 2 bikes behind me, to 3 bikes AHEAD of me............

so throw your +r's in the garbage now......

i'm going to guess that the price of these will drop.

SUZUKIRM12594 · 07-07-2008, 06:33 PM

Old news man. The 4valve 143 packs as many horses as a 195r. That 138R cant even touch my 2valve 143 either.

Paxracing · 07-07-2008, 06:36 PM

How many hp is a 160 4 vavle ?

HACKMUNCH · 07-07-2008, 06:41 PM

from the looks of willy's at red bud i would say 20hp.

iskatealot33 · 07-07-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Paxracing

How many hp is a 160 4 vavle ?

arent you the one to ask!? haha

mr.699 · 07-07-2008, 06:52 PM

I talked to costella and he said the 160 4v is good but it vibrates alot he said he might go back to the old motor...195r is a great motor i think it will be hard to beat

Paxracing · 07-07-2008, 06:58 PM

195 r AT $ 1200.00 plus carb, pipe,porting, cam 20-23 hp
160 v4 at $1900.00 plus carb, pipe , porting 20-23 hp

mr.699 · 07-07-2008, 07:01 PM

im going to go with the 195r. I think they are having problem with that v4 set up

sorry don i didnt call you today i didnt get a chance to pick up my 6disc at the shop..tomorow i will hit you up!

sliding68 · 07-07-2008, 08:46 PM

So is anyone out there looking to sponsor someone with a 4v ?? Guess the 138 just wont cut it for the national......COME ON someone with a money tree hook a guy up

stik__boy · 07-08-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SUZUKIRM12594

That 138R cant even touch my 2valve 143 either.

dont know about that one, dude...... been there, passed that......

stik__boy · 07-08-2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sliding68

So is anyone out there looking to sponsor someone with a 4v ?? Guess the 138 just wont cut it for the national......COME ON someone with a money tree hook a guy up

6 speed 138 is all i got for ya brutha!!!

scallionrm · 07-11-2008, 12:21 PM

Yea 195r is great, but when your trying to run in a certain class, it just does not work. Max cc's for F3 is 151. As far as problems, I've been running mine hard at 3 differnet races this year and not a single problem. Same with my buddy. Also, WIlly's bike might just be a packing a few factory bits in and around that motor.

xr1million · 07-11-2008, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dicktony

I hear the 4 valve head works nicely with the the 180cc Honda Nice motor...

too bad those are Daytona 4 valves for the 50 engine and not Kitaco 4 valve for the 110 engine!!!!

50mAfIa · 07-12-2008, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by scallionrm

Yea 195r is great, but when your trying to run in a certain class, it just does not work. Max cc's for F3 is 151. As far as problems, I've been running mine hard at 3 differnet races this year and not a single problem. Same with my buddy. Also, WIlly's bike might just be a packing a few factory bits in and around that motor.

factory bits? u think the factory **** is up with the aftermarket? probably not... it was like it was with atv mx racing years back, it was all up to the aftermarket. the factories would have to play catch up with r and d.

xr1million · 07-12-2008, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 50mAfIa

factory bits? u think the factory **** is up with the aftermarket? probably not... it was like it was with atv mx racing years back, it was all up to the aftermarket. the factories would have to play catch up with r and d.

I think he means factory as in "unobtainable parts" or parts that arent easily accessible by the public. Not factory Kawi or Honda parts.

But yes Quadtards have had to rely on the aftermarket for many years!!!

50mAfIa · 07-12-2008, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by xr1million

I think he means factory as in "unobtainable parts" or parts that arent easily accessible by the public. Not factory Kawi or Honda parts.

But yes Quadtards have had to rely on the aftermarket for many years!!!

quadtards? still more hardcore then a mini, ur talking to an ex-professional quadtard mx racer.

what u said made no sense. any aftermarket part is obtainable. factory stuff not.

sliding68 · 07-12-2008, 12:59 AM

piss on the 4v id settle for a +r...ok just kidding ....SOMEONE HELP ME....!!!

scallionrm · 07-14-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 50mAfIa

factory bits? u think the factory **** is up with the aftermarket? probably not... it was like it was with atv mx racing years back, it was all up to the aftermarket. the factories would have to play catch up with r and d.

What I meant, is that Lyle from CHP has made a bunch of one off parts for their team bikes that you and I could not buy.

50mAfIa · 07-14-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by scallionrm

What I meant, is that Lyle from CHP has made a bunch of one off parts for their team bikes that you and I could not buy.

lol bull****, its not factory, anyone can buy it, everything is for sale for a price.

scallionrm · 07-14-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 50mAfIa

lol bull****, its not factory, anyone can buy it, everything is for sale for a price.

Actually i dont think you could get your hands on a few of the items i've seen. Even if that was the case, it would take so many man hours to create what they have.

07-07-2008, 06:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
stik__boy 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: wisconsin Posts: 829	+R vs 4 valve not that you didnt probably already know this..... but the 4 valve kills the +r..... im talking 143 vs 138...... same drive up the back straight at USA int, and he pulled from 2 bikes behind me, to 3 bikes AHEAD of me............ so throw your +r's in the garbage now...... i'm going to guess that the price of these will drop.

07-07-2008, 06:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
SUZUKIRM12594 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Glendale California Posts: 2,406	Re: +R vs 4 valve Old news man. The 4valve 143 packs as many horses as a 195r. That 138R cant even touch my 2valve 143 either. Last edited by SUZUKIRM12594; 07-07-2008 at 06:37 PM.

07-07-2008, 06:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
Paxracing Advertiser Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: ca Posts: 2,966	Re: +R vs 4 valve How many hp is a 160 4 vavle ? __________________ WWW.PAXRACINGSTORE.COM (818) 897-0373 EMAIL PAXRACING@AOL.COM IF YOU DONT SEE IT JUST E MAIL _________________________________

07-07-2008, 06:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
HACKMUNCH 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: BRUNSWICK OHIO Posts: 4,749	Re: +R vs 4 valve from the looks of willy's at red bud i would say 20hp.

07-07-2008, 06:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
mr.699 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Orange County Posts: 1,251	Re: +R vs 4 valve I talked to costella and he said the 160 4v is good but it vibrates alot he said he might go back to the old motor...195r is a great motor i think it will be hard to beat

07-07-2008, 06:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
Paxracing Advertiser Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: ca Posts: 2,966	Re: +R vs 4 valve 195 r AT $ 1200.00 plus carb, pipe,porting, cam 20-23 hp 160 v4 at $1900.00 plus carb, pipe , porting 20-23 hp __________________ WWW.PAXRACINGSTORE.COM (818) 897-0373 EMAIL PAXRACING@AOL.COM IF YOU DONT SEE IT JUST E MAIL _________________________________

07-07-2008, 07:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
mr.699 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Orange County Posts: 1,251	Re: +R vs 4 valve im going to go with the 195r. I think they are having problem with that v4 set up sorry don i didnt call you today i didnt get a chance to pick up my 6disc at the shop..tomorow i will hit you up!

07-07-2008, 08:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
sliding68 PM Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 93	Re: +R vs 4 valve So is anyone out there looking to sponsor someone with a 4v ?? Guess the 138 just wont cut it for the national......COME ON someone with a money tree hook a guy up

07-11-2008, 12:21 PM	#12 (permalink)
scallionrm 1st Gear Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 176	Re: +R vs 4 valve Yea 195r is great, but when your trying to run in a certain class, it just does not work. Max cc's for F3 is 151. As far as problems, I've been running mine hard at 3 differnet races this year and not a single problem. Same with my buddy. Also, WIlly's bike might just be a packing a few factory bits in and around that motor.

07-12-2008, 12:59 AM	#17 (permalink)
sliding68 PM Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 93	Re: +R vs 4 valve piss on the 4v id settle for a +r...ok just kidding ....SOMEONE HELP ME....!!!

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