Planet Minis

zack250

I want to run an oil filter for my street sumo because I'm putting some miles and am trying to make it last like a normal street bike.

Anyone know what setup works and where to get an add on oil filter that would work?

I have a TB117 with an oil cooler on the bike now. I've tossed the idea around of putting an oil thermostat (aftermarket inline type from perma-cool that is on JEGS.com (Perma-Cool Remote Oil Thermostats - JEGS) on also to deal with the 9 miles each way and 55-60 mph for 75% of the trip. I've geared it pretty tall to keep the rev's off of the very top, but I still want to make it last as long as I can and maximize the MPG's out of the engine.

What do you guys recommend??

zack250

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50rider340

kitaco or tak, clutch cover. They have oil filters in the covers. Plan on dropping some coin though there not cheap. As for the oil thermostat i seriously doubt you will have to worry about the motor getting up to the right temperature. The cooler the oil the happier the motor is. Oil breaks down when it gets hot, so the cooler it is the longer your engine will last.

heres what i mean. This is a 5 speed tranny. IM pretty sure you can get one of these kits that goes on the stock 3 speed tranny also.

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supernes550

how about a kitaco in line filter

fatcaaat

I'm running the tacky 124+r with the fancy-pants clutch. The cover has a spot for a thermostat...I bought it.

I personally only believe that the thermostat is only useful if you plan on riding the bike in 60 degrees or less and would really only start providing some serious use at 50 degrees or less. I ride my street bikes all year in VA, even when the temps are in the 30's because we rarely get any snow here.

The one that supernes is showing is a good version and uses the $3 honda filters too.

If you don't want to worry about it, the trick is to keep the oil clean. Change it after every 200 street miles and you shouldn't have a problem.

firepower354

If the oil never gets over 220 degrees or so, it won't burn off the accumulated moisture, right?

fatcaaat

I don't know if that is completely true. My old Passat had a constant running temp of 212 on the oil and I never had issues with it. 219k when I sold it and the guy now has 350k on it as the original build. This is a gas vr6 motor we're talking about.

I've used those dratv temp sticks and my oil never goes over 230 in the motor base. That is true. But man do the cylinder, head, and plug temps read high. The oil is much hotter as it contacts the rotating and friction components of the motor. And, as molecules of fuel slips past the rings, it becomes contaminated with unburned hydrocarbons.

How hot does the oil (any of it) get when it comes in contact with the head, cylinder, piston, etc? 300? 400? 500? The answer is yes...it can hit that in these motors, if only for a short time, but still hits it. Care to guess the flash point of most modern oils? Low 400's. So, any molecules that come in contact and heat up to over that flash point pretty much destroys that molecule of oil.

Have a read of this:
Car Bibles : The Engine Oil Bible

firepower354

Hmmmm, I won't believe a word of anything with "Bible" in the title

Good point on the localized heating. That should be enough to rid it of condensation, eh?

Reminds me, I need to see if the Jetta's I-5 needs a change. Every 10K, they say.

scottiedawg66

where can i find one of these?

zack250

Thanks for the info. That kitaco filter is what I had in mind.

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josh302

the kitaco clutch comes with an oil filter, and a place for a theromostat(you have to hook the oil cooler directly to the clutch cover).