Planet Minis

jacque372 · 10-03-2007, 07:06 PM

here is the pics of the 08 motard front end should be killer braking twin disk dual calipers just keep this on the down lowmotard 001.jpg

motard 002.jpg

motard 003.jpg

motard 004.jpg

motard 005.jpg

jacque372 · 10-03-2007, 07:08 PM

motard 006.jpg

motard 007.jpghere are more

lumpdog256 · 10-03-2007, 07:14 PM

is it me or does the right caliper need to be swapped?

CJsDad · 10-03-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lumpdog256

is it me or does the right caliper need to be swapped?

I was thinking the same thing.

p3racer · 10-03-2007, 07:43 PM

thats FAKE

moosehunter · 10-03-2007, 07:48 PM

Back to the drawing board....

two4seven · 10-03-2007, 07:52 PM

kinda funny hows thers another set of legs in the background

110Thump · 10-03-2007, 07:59 PM

now that is funny jack...

lumpdog256 · 10-03-2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by moosehunter

Back to the drawing board....

I'm still crackin up...maybe the right rotor is mounted on the....hmmm...no.... that won't work....oh maybe it's on the....no???.....yes back to the drawing board

110Thump · 10-03-2007, 08:08 PM

when did i hit 400??? sweet

Kurlon · 10-03-2007, 08:24 PM

Ok, so this got my gears turning. On the Pro Mini version of those forks, (And Pax's upgrade kit) the caliper in use is a Nissen two pot clone. Honda NSR50s use the cloned Nissen two pot on their front brake, but it's for the other side...

So, I've got a matching set of calipers, left and right. All I need is a second dropout with caliper mounts (they're centered on the dropout, so no custom work there) and a reverse caliper bracket. The bracket should be easy enough to have duplicated, it's just a piece of steel with two posts, and two threaded holes.

This leaves me the issue of where to mount a second rotor. That I haven't quite sorted. My first thought was to use a rear SDG style hub, and lace a 14" wheel to it. The bolt pattern on the sprocket is slightly smaller than that of the front rotor, but there is plenty of meat on the rotor to drill new bolt holes, so an easy problem. Not so easy is the minor detail that the hub is much wider than a front hub. So that's out.

Option two would be to weld up mounting lugs on my existing front hub, but I dunno how well that'd work on a cast hub?

Oh well, it's an amusing idea, I'd be more apt to try this with my NSR50 front end as that's where I need the extra brake capacity. Fortunately there I can just get an adapter bracket to mount a 4 pot Brembo. Actually, if you can mount a Brembo on my front end, you should be able to whip out a bracket to do the same on these Zochs....

jacque372 · 10-03-2007, 08:25 PM

you guys are good i was updating my bike to the 08 forks they have compresion and rebound adjustments on each fork leg and use a different caliper i didn't fool anybody good job

magiksc · 10-03-2007, 08:41 PM

But it was a good joke man. credit for making us look and laugh

p3racer · 10-03-2007, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurlon

Ok, so this got my gears turning. On the Pro Mini version of those forks, (And Pax's upgrade kit) the caliper in use is a Nissen two pot clone. Honda NSR50s use the cloned Nissen two pot on their front brake, but it's for the other side...

So, I've got a matching set of calipers, left and right. All I need is a second dropout with caliper mounts (they're centered on the dropout, so no custom work there) and a reverse caliper bracket. The bracket should be easy enough to have duplicated, it's just a piece of steel with two posts, and two threaded holes.

This leaves me the issue of where to mount a second rotor. That I haven't quite sorted. My first thought was to use a rear SDG style hub, and lace a 14" wheel to it. The bolt pattern on the sprocket is slightly smaller than that of the front rotor, but there is plenty of meat on the rotor to drill new bolt holes, so an easy problem. Not so easy is the minor detail that the hub is much wider than a front hub. So that's out.

Option two would be to weld up mounting lugs on my existing front hub, but I dunno how well that'd work on a cast hub?

Oh well, it's an amusing idea, I'd be more apt to try this with my NSR50 front end as that's where I need the extra brake capacity. Fortunately there I can just get an adapter bracket to mount a 4 pot Brembo. Actually, if you can mount a Brembo on my front end, you should be able to whip out a bracket to do the same on these Zochs....

i got a set of zoke drop outs new for sale

~E · 10-03-2007, 08:52 PM

lol. you can look at the dropout and tell it is a 2nd left leg.

I had the dual rotor thing going 4 years ago, didnt follow through with it because there wouldnt have been a market. My first set of billet wheels has both sides of the front hub drilled for rotors even.

Z · 10-03-2007, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurlon

Ok, so this got my gears turning. On the Pro Mini version of those forks, (And Pax's upgrade kit) the caliper in use is a Nissen two pot clone. Honda NSR50s use the cloned Nissen two pot on their front brake, but it's for the other side...

So, I've got a matching set of calipers, left and right. All I need is a second dropout with caliper mounts (they're centered on the dropout, so no custom work there) and a reverse caliper bracket. The bracket should be easy enough to have duplicated, it's just a piece of steel with two posts, and two threaded holes.

This leaves me the issue of where to mount a second rotor. That I haven't quite sorted. My first thought was to use a rear SDG style hub, and lace a 14" wheel to it. The bolt pattern on the sprocket is slightly smaller than that of the front rotor, but there is plenty of meat on the rotor to drill new bolt holes, so an easy problem. Not so easy is the minor detail that the hub is much wider than a front hub. So that's out.

Option two would be to weld up mounting lugs on my existing front hub, but I dunno how well that'd work on a cast hub?

Oh well, it's an amusing idea, I'd be more apt to try this with my NSR50 front end as that's where I need the extra brake capacity. Fortunately there I can just get an adapter bracket to mount a 4 pot Brembo. Actually, if you can mount a Brembo on my front end, you should be able to whip out a bracket to do the same on these Zochs....

I would just do it the easy way with the Twin G-craft Hub and hanger for use with NSR50 fork legs, 220mm Braking Rotors and Twin 4 pot or Radial Brembos. However, I think my 4 pot is going to be plenty in the grand scheme of things.

It's a mini bike and the 4 pot is overkill for heavens sake, but it sure is fun to talk about..

And Honda uses a geniune Nissin Caliper on the NSR50's here in the USA. It's the cheap overseas replica Nissins you must be thinking of. All my NSR50 calipers have "Nissin" cast into them.

Kurlon · 10-03-2007, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Z

And Honda uses a geniune Nissin Caliper on the NSR50's here in the USA. It's the cheap overseas replica Nissins you must be thinking of. All my NSR50 calipers have "Nissin" cast into them.

Yeah, bad verbiage on my part. My NSR50's original front brake was a Nissin, the one I'm running was a clone I had that was in better shape. I didn't mean to imply the ones Honda sourced were clones, just that the ones on my Pro Mini were clones of the Nissins mounted on NSR50s.

ROBINSONDB22 · 10-03-2007, 09:09 PM

do you go fast enough to need dual front brakes? is it worth the added weight

Kurlon · 10-03-2007, 09:13 PM

Dual disc on my 70 would be nice if I play at Loudon with any aggressiveness. I blued my rotor quite nicely at the pace I was going, which was well off race pace, pushing harder would likely warp it fast. With dual discs I could spread the heat.

On a dirt machine, OVERKILL!

RLucky82 · 10-03-2007, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacque372

you guys are good i was updating my bike to the 08 forks they have compresion and rebound adjustments on each fork leg and use a different caliper i didn't fool anybody good job

I like the creativity

10-03-2007, 07:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
jacque372 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: hermitage, pa Posts: 349	08 pitster twin disk motard front end here is the pics of the 08 motard front end should be killer braking twin disk dual calipers just keep this on the down lowmotard 001.jpg motard 002.jpg motard 003.jpg motard 004.jpg motard 005.jpg

10-03-2007, 07:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
jacque372 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: hermitage, pa Posts: 349	Re: 08 pitster twin disk motard front end motard 006.jpg motard 007.jpghere are more

10-03-2007, 07:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
lumpdog256 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,436	Re: 08 pitster twin disk motard front end is it me or does the right caliper need to be swapped?

10-03-2007, 07:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
p3racer Founding Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 5,713 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	Re: 08 pitster twin disk motard front end thats FAKE

10-03-2007, 07:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
moosehunter Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Cologne, Minnesota Posts: 2,219	Re: 08 pitster twin disk motard front end Back to the drawing board.... __________________ Moosehunter (aka: Dan) "When in doubt.... GAS IT!"

10-03-2007, 07:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
two4seven 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Agoura Posts: 1,559	Re: 08 pitster twin disk motard front end kinda funny hows thers another set of legs in the background Last edited by two4seven; 10-03-2007 at 07:55 PM.

10-03-2007, 07:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
110Thump 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Girard Oh / Pittsburgh Pa Posts: 500	Re: 08 pitster twin disk motard front end now that is funny jack...

10-03-2007, 08:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
110Thump 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Girard Oh / Pittsburgh Pa Posts: 500	Re: 08 pitster twin disk motard front end when did i hit 400??? sweet

10-03-2007, 08:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
Kurlon Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Windham, ME Posts: 7,529	Re: 08 pitster twin disk motard front end Ok, so this got my gears turning. On the Pro Mini version of those forks, (And Pax's upgrade kit) the caliper in use is a Nissen two pot clone. Honda NSR50s use the cloned Nissen two pot on their front brake, but it's for the other side... So, I've got a matching set of calipers, left and right. All I need is a second dropout with caliper mounts (they're centered on the dropout, so no custom work there) and a reverse caliper bracket. The bracket should be easy enough to have duplicated, it's just a piece of steel with two posts, and two threaded holes. This leaves me the issue of where to mount a second rotor. That I haven't quite sorted. My first thought was to use a rear SDG style hub, and lace a 14" wheel to it. The bolt pattern on the sprocket is slightly smaller than that of the front rotor, but there is plenty of meat on the rotor to drill new bolt holes, so an easy problem. Not so easy is the minor detail that the hub is much wider than a front hub. So that's out. Option two would be to weld up mounting lugs on my existing front hub, but I dunno how well that'd work on a cast hub? Oh well, it's an amusing idea, I'd be more apt to try this with my NSR50 front end as that's where I need the extra brake capacity. Fortunately there I can just get an adapter bracket to mount a 4 pot Brembo. Actually, if you can mount a Brembo on my front end, you should be able to whip out a bracket to do the same on these Zochs.... __________________ http://www.x386.net/TTR 2004 ST3 - 'Duckie'?!?! 2005 CRF70RR - MiniGP Weapon 2005 CRF70 - Dirt Donk 2008 Pitster Pro X4 Motard GS500E - LRRS/CCS #771

10-03-2007, 08:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
jacque372 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: hermitage, pa Posts: 349	Re: 08 pitster twin disk motard front end you guys are good i was updating my bike to the 08 forks they have compresion and rebound adjustments on each fork leg and use a different caliper i didn't fool anybody good job

10-03-2007, 08:41 PM	#13 (permalink)
magiksc 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Provo, Ut. Posts: 2,117	Re: 08 pitster twin disk motard front end But it was a good joke man. credit for making us look and laugh

10-03-2007, 08:52 PM	#15 (permalink)
~E perpetratin' Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Juan Capo, CA Posts: 1,968	Re: 08 pitster twin disk motard front end lol. you can look at the dropout and tell it is a 2nd left leg. I had the dual rotor thing going 4 years ago, didnt follow through with it because there wouldnt have been a market. My first set of billet wheels has both sides of the front hub drilled for rotors even.

10-03-2007, 09:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
ROBINSONDB22 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The Dark Side of Eternia Posts: 1,618	Re: 08 pitster twin disk motard front end do you go fast enough to need dual front brakes? is it worth the added weight

10-03-2007, 09:13 PM	#19 (permalink)
Kurlon Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Windham, ME Posts: 7,529	Re: 08 pitster twin disk motard front end Dual disc on my 70 would be nice if I play at Loudon with any aggressiveness. I blued my rotor quite nicely at the pace I was going, which was well off race pace, pushing harder would likely warp it fast. With dual discs I could spread the heat. On a dirt machine, OVERKILL! __________________ http://www.x386.net/TTR 2004 ST3 - 'Duckie'?!?! 2005 CRF70RR - MiniGP Weapon 2005 CRF70 - Dirt Donk 2008 Pitster Pro X4 Motard GS500E - LRRS/CCS #771

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