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Old 07-24-2008, 08:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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To clutch, or not to clutch..

Hey,
Just looking for people who have the TB manual clutch, and I want to know your opinion, the class I am now racing allows x4s and all, and I ride a stock 110, so i figure I am going to need the clutch, but I am also a basher, so my question is, to clutch, or not to clutch? AND WHY EITHER WAY!
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Old 07-24-2008, 08:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: To clutch, or not to clutch..

I've used both TBR hydraulic and TB Wire clutch kits and I like the TBR hydraulic better; smoother and easier to pull. Although I'm currently running the TB wire only because I like the crankcase and as most of you know, hydraulic uses stock case and my stock case is all beat up...I'll eventually go back to hydraulic once my TB case gets beat up or sumthin goes wrong...All my stock case needs is a little bit of metal brush polishing and it'll look as good as new but I'm too lazy to do that right now.

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Old 07-24-2008, 08:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: To clutch, or not to clutch..

I know for roadracing the KLX the manual clutch is the ticket. Kinda harder to keep the shifter detented and rpm match and then let it out and all while riding track. I dont know about the dirt. I rode mine in the dirt a little bit but we only trail rode so I didnt hammer in the dirt any to really see how it all felt. I would imagine its much easier riding it in auto clutch format in the dirt than on the pavement.
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Old 07-24-2008, 08:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: To clutch, or not to clutch..

my mates got the Tb cable clutch on his 143 and i had a ride ov it and loved the clutch in the dirt
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Re: To clutch, or not to clutch..

I'm racing in a class with x4's and falcons and sh** and I'm all stock and it sucks cause u can't get them off the start
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Old 07-25-2008, 06:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: To clutch, or not to clutch..

yeah, i just dont want to spend the $134 for something thats not going to help..
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Old 07-25-2008, 07:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: To clutch, or not to clutch..

u do know if u dont get the primary drive gear it will still hav the stok clutch set up in it so u hav the manual clutch and a semi auto clutch, thats how my mates 143 is and it seems 2 work really well and he hazent had any problems with it
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:56 PM   #8 (permalink)
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u do know if u dont get the primary drive gear it will still hav the stok clutch set up in it so u hav the manual clutch and a semi auto clutch, thats how my mates 143 is and it seems 2 work really well and he hazent had any problems with it
yeah i read about that, but I dont really know if the clutch will make me much faster on the track
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Old 07-25-2008, 09:08 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: To clutch, or not to clutch..

get a clutch and get a cheap bore kit.
dudee you can beat a build bike on a stock bike just carry momentum.
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Old 07-25-2008, 09:15 PM   #10 (permalink)
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get a clutch and get a cheap bore kit.
dudee you can beat a build bike on a stock bike just carry momentum.
Ditto^^^ Personally, its alot easier to keep up momentum on a stocker cuz you can keep it pinned and take the turns alot easier unlike a longer suspension mod which you have to square square the corner to get around.
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yeah i read about that, but I dont really know if the clutch will make me much faster on the track
personly i think it make me quicker off the start and out ov sum corners but thats just me so yeh
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Old 07-26-2008, 08:45 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: To clutch, or not to clutch..

Get the clutch if your racing E-Town.
Gate starts and some slow corners with big jumps just out of them almost requires them to clear.
When I had the SSR90R with auto I could not get over a few jumps that I'm sure I could have made with a few slips of the clutch. Just my $.02.
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Re: To clutch, or not to clutch..

i have the tb clutch and primary gear. revs really fast and great for around turns and starts.
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Re: To clutch, or not to clutch..

My son puts his bike in 1st gear and then shifts up to 2nd and holds the shifter up with his foot, revs the bike till its on the rev limiter and drops his foot when the gate drops. It works great just like haveing a manual clutch. Takes a little practice and make sure you are sitting on the tank. Alan
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My son puts his bike in 1st gear and then shifts up to 2nd and holds the shifter up with his foot, revs the bike till its on the rev limiter and drops his foot when the gate drops. It works great just like haveing a manual clutch. Takes a little practice and make sure you are sitting on the tank. Alan
I have done that to throw roost before, but I don't think it would be practical for all the turns on the track. but thanks for the headsup.
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Get the clutch if your racing E-Town.
Gate starts and some slow corners with big jumps just out of them almost requires them to clear.
When I had the SSR90R with auto I could not get over a few jumps that I'm sure I could have made with a few slips of the clutch. Just my $.02.
I am only going to make one race, which sucks, but owell. With the stuff you guys get away with in that class, I ought to be able to run my 250f in there :/
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i have the tb clutch and primary gear. revs really fast and great for around turns and starts.
okay, thats what I was more or less looking for, thank you
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Old 08-11-2008, 06:33 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: To clutch, or not to clutch..

Do you have to split the cases to install a primary gear? I just installed a hydraulic clutch on my bike last week and it's my favorite mod by far...
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Do you have to split the cases to install a primary gear? I just installed a hydraulic clutch on my bike last week and it's my favorite mod by far...

Nope, just have to remove the clutch basket. It makes a BIG difference in how fast the bike revs.
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Old 08-11-2008, 01:06 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: To clutch, or not to clutch..

I've already removed the auto clutch assy when I installed the hydro kit. Will I still notice a big difference from installing a primary drive gear? What is removed that drops the weight when installing one of these?
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