Planet Minis

killer110 · 03-03-2008, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 61stepdad

I think an AMA type sanctioning body should be leading the rules. The PBRA IMO is made up of a track promoter trying to make some money. (Yes I know it is free now, but it won't be). Just like he did with the NNRA. Just means we have to pay them to race some races also along with the tracks.

They already have a series planned here and you have to be a part of the PBRA to race. I'll stick with the people who still make it fun and not about money.

wouldn't it be nice to have a standard set of rules no matter where you go? the ama isn't doing anything productive with their newly acquired "pitbike" class and it seems no one else is either. I say if the pbra wants to make some standardized rules and if they are taking the initiative to be productive and promote pitbike racing, then i'm sticking with them. who knows, maybe the pbra will become thte "ama," if you will, of pitbike racing...

61stepdad · 03-03-2008, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by killer110

wouldn't it be nice to have a standard set of rules no matter where you go? the ama isn't doing anything productive with their newly acquired "pitbike" class and it seems no one else is either. I say if the pbra wants to make some standardized rules and if they are taking the initiative to be productive and promote pitbike racing, then i'm sticking with them. who knows, maybe the pbra will become thte "ama," if you will, of pitbike racing...

That's what I am saying, to get someone to become the "AMA" of pitbike racing. I do not believe the PBRA and who it is run by is the right choice. I also agree the AMA will not be getting it done anytime soon, but I also believe the PBRA is not really in it for the right reasons. This is from the previous association that was created NNRA (national night racing association). I believe a group like MOM would be better suited for coming up with guidelines and rules for national level pitbikes. They have run a large amount of races, the PBRA has never run a high level pitbike race.

OLDSCHOOL · 03-03-2008, 09:23 AM

got to start somewhere...and time will tell.

Blackwatchracing101 · 03-03-2008, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 61stepdad

That's what I am saying, to get someone to become the "AMA" of pitbike racing. I do not believe the PBRA and who it is run by is the right choice. I also agree the AMA will not be getting it done anytime soon, but I also believe the PBRA is not really in it for the right reasons. This is from the previous association that was created NNRA (national night racing association). I believe a group like MOM would be better suited for coming up with guidelines and rules for national level pitbikes. They have run a large amount of races, the PBRA has never run a high level pitbike race.

I does not look like you really know everyone involved in the PBRA bud, I am one of the people involved, I am from Missouri and not part of the track you talking about, Guy Cooper is going to get involved also, to help with the rules, so I don't think your statements are really to the point, If you look you will see it is more then just the Texas Classic series that is involved with the PBRA, You will also Get the Sho Me State Pit Bike Series and a series in Virginia, and more to come. We will be talking with the people from MOM and you might just see a change in sanctioning for MinimotoSx in 2009. You never know. But my point is do not talk out of line if you do not know all the facts about a organization that is starting off to try and better the sport.

Andre B

Dstardubbin · 03-03-2008, 11:58 AM

if everyone would stop being so sensitive about classes and be happy with only a couple classes(ex. 50 stock 50 mod, midsize stock midsize mod) then it could have happened by now. Trying to make classes like "fatboy" "30+" an ama class just makes it harder. We need to remember that it is a honor that they will have classes for us and we dont need to make it more complicated for them! Afterall this is a very small sport/hobby!

OLDSCHOOL · 03-03-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dstardubbin

if everyone would stop being so sensitive about classes and be happy with only a couple classes(ex. 50 stock 50 mod, midsize stock midsize mod) then it could have happened by now. Trying to make classes like "fatboy" "30+" an ama class just makes it harder. We need to remember that it is a honor that they will have classes for us and we dont need to make it more complicated for them! Afterall this is a very small sport/hobby!

AMA classes were/are based on MMSX in Vegas

the fatBoy (started out here in Mass) and 30+ Senior Classes have huge turnouts for the past 5 years and give the Bigger guys and the older Riders an incentive to come out and race.

From what I was told yesterday By Andre' the PBRA approaches tracks that have not offered Pit Bike events Before as well as Track promoters that host events....

whats important here is Ridership and promotion of the Industry with Pit bikes.

Next time someone complains about no where to ride.... Think about this!!!

pamela · 03-03-2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 61stepdad

That's what I am saying, to get someone to become the "AMA" of pitbike racing. I do not believe the PBRA and who it is run by is the right choice. I also agree the AMA will not be getting it done anytime soon, but I also believe the PBRA is not really in it for the right reasons. This is from the previous association that was created NNRA (national night racing association). I believe a group like MOM would be better suited for coming up with guidelines and rules for national level pitbikes. They have run a large amount of races, the PBRA has never run a high level pitbike race.

There are a very large number of people associated with the PBRA. The NNRA has not created this association, nor is the person that created the NNRA. All parties involved in the PBRA are in it for the right reasons. They are trying to better the sport and give riders across the nation more places to ride and race without having to modify their bike or completely change their bikes every time they go to a diff race. When something is new, there will always be a select few people who disagree with it and that is ok. Everyone has a different opinion of what things should be like. IMO the PBRA is taking in all the information that riders have been emailing them with to better the association. Will it happen overnight? Probably not, it probably takes a few days to get everyone on the same page. Will it happen eventually if the request is reasonable to make the members happy? Almost guaranteed - IMO.
I would assume the PBRA has never run a high level pit bike race, simply for the fact the PBRA has never sanctioned a pit bike race before.

Pamela

Blackwatchracing101 · 03-03-2008, 12:39 PM

Thanks Kevin, ya as I said to you yesterday, a good example is here in MO, I approach tracks here for our series and they got so excited about it that they can work with us, that they are going to build special pit bike tracks for us to ride on with starting gates and all, i or 2 said that they would even consider putting in lights for 2009 so that we can have night races too. We are going to see a big growing spurt in the sport, if people can just stand together and help each other and the sport out. We can help the tracks and the vendors at the same time and that will help for our sport to grow and not die off like some said, so it is upto every individual to decide, does he want a place and series to ride that investment he make in his bike, equipment or does he want it to rot in his garage. I think mI would like to see the sport grow, just like it is growing in Europe and other places around the world, we will get more people into racing for way cheaper then big bikes, and more parents would be able for their kids to race.

Blackwatchracing101 · 03-03-2008, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pamela

There are a very large number of people associated with the PBRA. The NNRA has not created this association, nor is the person that created the NNRA. All parties involved in the PBRA are in it for the right reasons. They are trying to better the sport and give riders across the nation more places to ride and race without having to modify their bike or completely change their bikes every time they go to a diff race. When something is new, there will always be a select few people who disagree with it and that is ok. Everyone has a different opinion of what things should be like. IMO the PBRA is taking in all the information that riders have been emailing them with to better the association. Will it happen overnight? Probably not, it probably takes a few days to get everyone on the same page. Will it happen eventually if the request is reasonable to make the members happy? Almost guaranteed - IMO.
I would assume the PBRA has never run a high level pit bike race, simply for the fact the PBRA has never sanctioned a pit bike race before.

Pamela

Thanks Pamela for stepping in too.

texas822 · 03-03-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 61stepdad

I think an AMA type sanctioning body should be leading the rules. The PBRA IMO is made up of a track promoter trying to make some money. (Yes I know it is free now, but it won't be). Just like he did with the NNRA. Just means we have to pay them to race some races also along with the tracks.

They already have a series planned here and you have to be a part of the PBRA to race. I'll stick with the people who still make it fun and not about money.

I agree... Also the emails you receive from the pbra are from orion pitbike sales. Conflict of interest? I also heard if you do not have a membership at sign ups at the local series race you will have to purchase one. I hope it works out well for the pbra and it's not just another way to pocket some quick cash....

pamela · 03-03-2008, 01:07 PM

You dont have to purchase the membership at the races, they are still free!

Blackwatchracing101 · 03-03-2008, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by texas822

I agree... Also the emails you receive from the pbra are from orion pitbike sales. Conflict of interest? I also heard if you do not have a membership at sign ups at the local series race you will have to purchase one. I hope it works out well for the pbra and it's not just another way to pocket some quick cash....

Orion Pit Bike Sales has nothing to do with the PBRA other being a Pro level sponsor, It was cleared before that those emails, was send out wrongly with the OPBS logo on them. The PBRA has alot of Pro level sponsors and none of them has got anything to do with the operations of the PBRA other then there sponsor relations. So quite trying to bash the PBRA. Grt your facts straight before you post anything on a public site because it might just bite you in the butt later. I know there is a lot of haters on here and some of you Texas guys had issues with track owners down there, but if you all don't know really who is involved with the PBRA don't open your trap and say something that you do't really have facts of.

Z · 03-03-2008, 01:27 PM

Pamela - Clear this with Nick@fluentdesigns.com before discussing the PBRA in the forums.

Blackwatch - Nice customer relations...

03-03-2008, 09:23 AM	#23 (permalink)
OLDSCHOOL 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cape Cod Ma. 02660 Posts: 7,145 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: Attn: National Pit Bike Rules got to start somewhere...and time will tell.

03-03-2008, 11:58 AM	#25 (permalink)
Dstardubbin 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PITTSBURGH Posts: 1,296	Re: Attn: National Pit Bike Rules if everyone would stop being so sensitive about classes and be happy with only a couple classes(ex. 50 stock 50 mod, midsize stock midsize mod) then it could have happened by now. Trying to make classes like "fatboy" "30+" an ama class just makes it harder. We need to remember that it is a honor that they will have classes for us and we dont need to make it more complicated for them! Afterall this is a very small sport/hobby!

03-03-2008, 12:39 PM	#28 (permalink)
Blackwatchracing101 1st Gear Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 113	Re: Attn: National Pit Bike Rules Thanks Kevin, ya as I said to you yesterday, a good example is here in MO, I approach tracks here for our series and they got so excited about it that they can work with us, that they are going to build special pit bike tracks for us to ride on with starting gates and all, i or 2 said that they would even consider putting in lights for 2009 so that we can have night races too. We are going to see a big growing spurt in the sport, if people can just stand together and help each other and the sport out. We can help the tracks and the vendors at the same time and that will help for our sport to grow and not die off like some said, so it is upto every individual to decide, does he want a place and series to ride that investment he make in his bike, equipment or does he want it to rot in his garage. I think mI would like to see the sport grow, just like it is growing in Europe and other places around the world, we will get more people into racing for way cheaper then big bikes, and more parents would be able for their kids to race.

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pamela 1st Gear Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 172	Re: Attn: National Pit Bike Rules You dont have to purchase the membership at the races, they are still free!

03-03-2008, 01:27 PM	#33 (permalink)
Z 5th Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: KANSAS Posts: 6,938	Re: Attn: National Pit Bike Rules Pamela - Clear this with Nick@fluentdesigns.com before discussing the PBRA in the forums. Blackwatch - Nice customer relations...

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