Planet Minis

carterbuzz · 11-24-2007, 09:45 AM

Found this on another site which was taken off the AMA site. Anyone know about the pitbike part?

Nationally recognized amateur motocross classes for 2008 will include:

MX Lites (100cc-153cc 2-stroke/151cc-250cc 4-stroke);
125 Class (86cc-125cc 2-stroke only)
Motocross (154cc-285cc 2-stroke/251cc-450cc 4-stroke);
250 Class (126cc-250cc 2-stroke only);
Open (251cc-500cc 2-stroke/390cc-650cc 4-stroke).
Displacements may be OEM or achieved by aftermarket modification.

The amateur motocross class structure for 2008 also includes Plus 25, Veteran 30 and Veteran 40 for riders at least 25, 30 or 40 years old, respectively, riding two- or four-stroke motorcycles with displacements of 86cc-open; and a Women's class for women riding two- or four-stroke motorcycles with displacements of 80cc-open.

The AMA amateur motocross classes for 2008 will also recognize a Pit Bike class. The specifications for the Pit Bike class are still being finalized and will be submitted for AMA Congress approval at the October meeting.

Kurlon · 11-24-2007, 09:55 AM

As discussed in another thread on the topic, no details have been released beyond that tidbit.

thekid3814 · 11-25-2007, 11:36 AM

more info please!

Kurlon · 11-25-2007, 11:53 AM

There is no more info. : ) What was posted is ALL thats been released. We're just as in the dark as you are.

Blackwatchracing101 · 02-11-2008, 11:38 AM

AMA is still not releasing any details or rules, spoke to Brain at AMA and he does not know when they will be releasing any rules on pit bikes, he is in amateur dept at AMA. So it look like the only published set of rules are Pit Bike Racing Association at this time, they revised and there rules is now allot better and it is free for membership.

Kurlon · 02-11-2008, 12:07 PM

The PBRAs rules still have some issues...

Pitbikes are defined as 54" or smaller wheelbase, 14" or smaller rear wheel? Then in the tech requirements they clamp 10" rear wheel machines to a 45" wheelbase, 12" to a 49" wheelbase, and say 12" rear wheel is the max. No classes allow 14" wheels. Looking closer, I also see they fail to mention anything about liquid cooling or running a two stroke... Pardon whilst I prep my 188cc water cooled two stroke in a closed cradle frame, 12" rear wheel monster. :P

Foot peg pivot points can't be more than 3 inches from the frame... Thats a rule that can be interpreted many ways, and I can think of lots of scenarios where even the kindest reading rules out many safe machines.

No titanium frames? Thats an odd exclusion.

"Forks must be adequate in strength and size for the pit bike and it's use." Guess that rules out all stock 50 style front ends. :P

"No radio communication with riders is permitted." Every rule has a name to thank for it, I want to hear the story behind this rule and how it crept into pitbike racing.

It's a nice try, but still way out there compared to the ideas and rules in use in 99% of the pitbike races actually occurring. I think the standard laid down by the Master of Minis series is closer to ideal than the PBRA setup.

DNRCustoms · 02-11-2008, 12:10 PM

I doubt there will be a reconized class. Most districts already have there format and schedules out for the year. The AMA messed up the class structure enough now I don't even know if I would like to see the rules if they come up with a pitbike class.

Blackwatchracing101 · 02-12-2008, 07:42 AM

Kurlon, maybe if we help the PBRA out with advise, they can get there rules the way they should be, to have a good set of rules, at least they took the initiative to come up with them and try and get something of the ground to help the sport, I will be working close with them in the future and will help them get it straighten out. But input from everyone will help and the good can be separated from the bad and we can be left with something positive that will work and help grow our sport.

underestimated · 02-12-2008, 04:10 PM

They (AMA) screw every thing up anyway. I heard that AMA was sold.Mybe the new owners can fix things.

Blackwatchracing101 · 02-12-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by underestimated

They (AMA) screw every thing up anyway. I heard that AMA was sold.Maybe the new owners can fix things.

Where or from whom did you hear it was sold!

KSKENE247 · 02-12-2008, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackwatchracing101

Where or from whom did you hear it was sold!

they sold it on ebay for like 2.2 million

underestimated · 02-12-2008, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackwatchracing101

Where or from whom did you hear it was sold!

From a freind. Do not know how true it is.

DNRCustoms · 02-12-2008, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by two4seven

they sold it on ebay for like 2.2 million

NICE....

Blackwatchracing101 · 02-12-2008, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by two4seven

they sold it on ebay for like 2.2 million

RFLOL

Pal · 02-13-2008, 04:19 PM

when did it sell?

Kurlon · 02-13-2008, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pal

when did it sell?

It didn't.

Pal · 02-13-2008, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurlon

It didn't.

ok then...

hpiguy · 02-13-2008, 04:43 PM

And when did they bring back the open class?

11-24-2007, 09:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
carterbuzz PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Blue Grass, IA Posts: 50	AMA Pitbike class? Found this on another site which was taken off the AMA site. Anyone know about the pitbike part? Nationally recognized amateur motocross classes for 2008 will include: MX Lites (100cc-153cc 2-stroke/151cc-250cc 4-stroke); 125 Class (86cc-125cc 2-stroke only) Motocross (154cc-285cc 2-stroke/251cc-450cc 4-stroke); 250 Class (126cc-250cc 2-stroke only); Open (251cc-500cc 2-stroke/390cc-650cc 4-stroke). Displacements may be OEM or achieved by aftermarket modification. The amateur motocross class structure for 2008 also includes Plus 25, Veteran 30 and Veteran 40 for riders at least 25, 30 or 40 years old, respectively, riding two- or four-stroke motorcycles with displacements of 86cc-open; and a Women's class for women riding two- or four-stroke motorcycles with displacements of 80cc-open. The AMA amateur motocross classes for 2008 will also recognize a Pit Bike class. The specifications for the Pit Bike class are still being finalized and will be submitted for AMA Congress approval at the October meeting.

11-24-2007, 09:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
Kurlon Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Windham, ME Posts: 7,633	Re: AMA Pitbike class? As discussed in another thread on the topic, no details have been released beyond that tidbit. __________________ http://www.x386.net/TTR 2004 ST3 - 'Duckie'?!?! 2005 CRF70RR - MiniGP Weapon 2005 CRF70 - Dirt Donk 2008 Pitster Pro X4 Motard 1991 GS500E - LRRS/CCS #771

11-25-2007, 11:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
thekid3814 PM Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 57	Re: AMA Pitbike class? more info please!

11-25-2007, 11:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
Kurlon Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Windham, ME Posts: 7,633	Re: AMA Pitbike class? There is no more info. : ) What was posted is ALL thats been released. We're just as in the dark as you are. __________________ http://www.x386.net/TTR 2004 ST3 - 'Duckie'?!?! 2005 CRF70RR - MiniGP Weapon 2005 CRF70 - Dirt Donk 2008 Pitster Pro X4 Motard 1991 GS500E - LRRS/CCS #771

02-11-2008, 11:38 AM	#5 (permalink)
Blackwatchracing101 1st Gear Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 113	Re: AMA Pitbike class? AMA is still not releasing any details or rules, spoke to Brain at AMA and he does not know when they will be releasing any rules on pit bikes, he is in amateur dept at AMA. So it look like the only published set of rules are Pit Bike Racing Association at this time, they revised and there rules is now allot better and it is free for membership.

02-11-2008, 12:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
Kurlon Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Windham, ME Posts: 7,633	Re: AMA Pitbike class? The PBRAs rules still have some issues... Pitbikes are defined as 54" or smaller wheelbase, 14" or smaller rear wheel? Then in the tech requirements they clamp 10" rear wheel machines to a 45" wheelbase, 12" to a 49" wheelbase, and say 12" rear wheel is the max. No classes allow 14" wheels. Looking closer, I also see they fail to mention anything about liquid cooling or running a two stroke... Pardon whilst I prep my 188cc water cooled two stroke in a closed cradle frame, 12" rear wheel monster. :P Foot peg pivot points can't be more than 3 inches from the frame... Thats a rule that can be interpreted many ways, and I can think of lots of scenarios where even the kindest reading rules out many safe machines. No titanium frames? Thats an odd exclusion. "Forks must be adequate in strength and size for the pit bike and it's use." Guess that rules out all stock 50 style front ends. :P "No radio communication with riders is permitted." Every rule has a name to thank for it, I want to hear the story behind this rule and how it crept into pitbike racing. It's a nice try, but still way out there compared to the ideas and rules in use in 99% of the pitbike races actually occurring. I think the standard laid down by the Master of Minis series is closer to ideal than the PBRA setup. __________________ http://www.x386.net/TTR 2004 ST3 - 'Duckie'?!?! 2005 CRF70RR - MiniGP Weapon 2005 CRF70 - Dirt Donk 2008 Pitster Pro X4 Motard 1991 GS500E - LRRS/CCS #771

02-11-2008, 12:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
DNRCustoms 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond MI Posts: 546	Re: AMA Pitbike class? I doubt there will be a reconized class. Most districts already have there format and schedules out for the year. The AMA messed up the class structure enough now I don't even know if I would like to see the rules if they come up with a pitbike class.

02-12-2008, 07:42 AM	#8 (permalink)
Blackwatchracing101 1st Gear Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 113	Re: AMA Pitbike class? Kurlon, maybe if we help the PBRA out with advise, they can get there rules the way they should be, to have a good set of rules, at least they took the initiative to come up with them and try and get something of the ground to help the sport, I will be working close with them in the future and will help them get it straighten out. But input from everyone will help and the good can be separated from the bad and we can be left with something positive that will work and help grow our sport.

02-12-2008, 04:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
underestimated 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Daytona Beach,Fl Posts: 359	Re: AMA Pitbike class? They (AMA) screw every thing up anyway. I heard that AMA was sold.Mybe the new owners can fix things.

02-13-2008, 04:19 PM	#15 (permalink)
Pal 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Highland Park, IL Posts: 1,157	Re: AMA Pitbike class? when did it sell?

02-13-2008, 04:43 PM	#18 (permalink)
hpiguy 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 937	Re: AMA Pitbike class? And when did they bring back the open class?

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