Planet Minis

streetsquid101 · 10-15-2008, 08:42 PM

sick pictures ,,i cant wait ,i am a EX-road racer (EX-as in no more) from up in NH ,,looks like one big blast of a time

katiecyr · 10-18-2008, 08:46 PM

Ohhh god I'm going to die with knobbies.

OLDSCHOOL · 10-19-2008, 02:28 AM

you race with full knobbies.... theres a high possibility!

12/14 scooter tires are fairly cheap....and worth it. Inside the building is like ice

flugie · 10-19-2008, 11:34 AM

i dont know about "ICE" ,judging from the amount of rubber on the floor from last year people were getting alot of grip in there...but street tires are the way to go.scooter tires are pretty inexpensive.other more race type tires are available but more money.we plan on having tires in stock for any last minute decision makers.not sure what yet,but ask and i will do my best to get them.(just dont ask on friday nov 7!) we're looking to be as accommodating as possible and will have parts in stock like levers,tires,tube, or anything else you might need-let me know in advance and i will have it stocked!
all we ask in return is-you guess it-canned goods!!with the economy issues going on right now, alot -if not most- funding for shelters and food banks is disappearing daily. so hook us up with as much as you can. we are gathering raffle prizes daily for your efforts. attached is a flyer we are passing around,so please print it and give it out to all interested!

Kurlon · 10-19-2008, 11:44 AM

This is going to sound backwards, but for this event you don't want proper 'race' tires. They need heat to work, and you just won't be able to build any between the cold pavement and November air. That's part of what was giving some of us trouble indoors while others were railing it. Cheapie street tires are designed to work at lower temps. Sure, you get less grip than a race tire that's up to temp, but you get boatloads more grip than a cold race tire.

If you really wanna drop some coin, Bridgestone and Sava make 12" rain tires, I think Sava also makes 10" rains... They would be the ultimate tire as they are crazy soft, and designed to grip when cold. You're going to have to order from Europe and pain through the nose for shipping to get any in time though...

flugie · 10-19-2008, 12:48 PM

if you get your tire psi properly set then you should have no issues.
we used tt90 dunlops last year and they hooked up excellent. they heated up,we got 15%psi increase out of them and had 0 problems.if you dont fiddle around w/tire psi then they may not work to your satisfaction. most any tire without big swirly knobs should be fine.

Kurlon · 10-19-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by flugie

if you get your tire psi properly set then you should have no issues.
we used tt90 dunlops last year and they hooked up excellent. they heated up,we got 15%psi increase out of them and had 0 problems.if you dont fiddle around w/tire psi then they may not work to your satisfaction. most any tire without big swirly knobs should be fine.

I couldn't get enough heat into my Savas to make them work in the cold. They tend to want more heat than Dunlop TT91s though. When I race indoors I usually need keep things in check for both the pit out and subsequent couple of warm up laps, and the first lap of the race. Dunnies are typically at fighting temp after the second warm up lap. That said, once we're both up to temp, I've got grip over the Dunlops, so what I really should do is invest in a set of warmers.

I'll still wager something like a Pirelli SL26, which is a fast wearing scooter tire will be easier to make work than TT91s if you're starting without prior pressure data. Anyone on Savas... all I can suggest is to up the pressure, (30psi cold) and cross your fingers. :P

Marko3 · 10-19-2008, 03:32 PM

I have Joey running Sava's on the KLX and stock knobbies on the ttr 50..He said he had alot of grip with the stock dirt tire..I wonder if they are having a "stock 50cc class" this year.I don't think they did last year.

flugie · 10-19-2008, 05:51 PM

and you wont need knobbies to get up the hill this year! we covered the whole hill in cement mix-by hand- and it looks awsome.a couple of my guys busted their humps out there from 9am to 7pm the other day.tough job.its amazing how steep the hill really is when you try to walk up it.
we molded a little kicker jump up near the top where one developed at the end of the day last year.hasnt been ridden up yet so i cant tell ya how it is.we're letting it set up really well before we give it a go.

OLDSCHOOL · 10-20-2008, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Marko3

I have Joey running Sava's on the KLX and stock knobbies on the ttr 50..He said he had alot of grip with the stock dirt tire..I wonder if they are having a "stock 50cc class" this year.I don't think they did last year.

The PoorBoy class is Suppost to be stock...it is what it is and that what was run last year

you should have seen a few of the Stock bikes run at Crow hill matter of fact it was the highlight of discussion with the MoM Crew im told

JohnnyB · 10-20-2008, 07:27 PM

I would highly recommend run'n some sort of street tire unless you handle have'n both ends break'n loose on ya alot .

JohnnyB · 10-20-2008, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flugie

we molded a little kicker jump up near the top where one developed at the end of the day last year.hasnt been ridden up yet so i cant tell ya how it is.we're letting it set up really well before we give it a go.

Will we need to run a skid plate on our bikes ? I remember that kicker was gett'n pretty knarly at the end of the night .

50rider340 · 10-20-2008, 07:46 PM

I was thinking what if you guys reversed the track so the hill wouldnt get so torn up? Just an idea dropping down that hill would prolly be pretty cool.

JohnnyB · 10-20-2008, 08:03 PM

I don't think our PoorBoy bikes could barely climb up that other hill we go down now .

No run at it .

It would make for great video though .

OLDSCHOOL · 10-20-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyB

I don't think our PoorBoy bikes could barely climb up that other hill we go down now .

No run at it .

It would make for great video though .

its all paved (cement) now

JohnnyB · 10-20-2008, 08:17 PM

I know .., but if we were ever to run it backwards like Tom / Jay said ...,
I don't think we would be able to climb up that little zig zag section we go down now with the stockers .

OLDSCHOOL · 10-20-2008, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

I know .., but if we were ever to run it backwards like Tom / Jay said ...,
I don't think we would be able to climb up that little zig zag section we go down now with the stockers .

how would "inside" the building come into play then.... run it the way it always is it flows that way

TankTheory · 10-20-2008, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLDSCHOOL

The PoorBoy class is Suppost to be stock...it is what it is and that what was run last year

you should have seen a few of the Stock bikes run at Crow hill matter of fact it was the highlight of discussion with the MoM Crew im told

OLDSCHOOL · 10-20-2008, 10:17 PM

[quote=TankTheory[/QUOTE]

Prehaps you should stay out of things and mind your own Biz... unless thats your self portrait

sweetjeep · 10-21-2008, 09:32 AM

Can't run that backwards. The warehouse would run fine, though the current way is much better. The stockers would PROBABLY make it up the zig zag, but everyone would be in a world of hurt coming down the steep hill. If you didn't wildly bottom out people would get in the heat of a battle and be jumping off it left and right.. it's be all bad no matter how you cut it.

What might be nice would be a plywood transition ramp for the 50s to allow them to get a good head of steam before they hit the incline. This way they won't bottom out and go all hokey by trying to generate a ton of speed on the flat then hitting a 50 degree ramp at 4 mph.

10-15-2008, 08:42 PM	#21 (permalink)
streetsquid101 PM Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: THE HOOD Posts: 65	Re: Cycles!128 update! sick pictures ,,i cant wait ,i am a EX-road racer (EX-as in no more) from up in NH ,,looks like one big blast of a time

10-18-2008, 08:46 PM	#22 (permalink)
katiecyr PM Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: connecticut Posts: 51	Re: Cycles!128 update! Ohhh god I'm going to die with knobbies.

10-19-2008, 02:28 AM	#23 (permalink)
OLDSCHOOL 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cape Cod Ma. 02660 Posts: 7,582 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: Cycles!128 update! you race with full knobbies.... theres a high possibility! 12/14 scooter tires are fairly cheap....and worth it. Inside the building is like ice

10-19-2008, 11:44 AM	#25 (permalink)
Kurlon Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Windham, ME Posts: 7,970	Re: Cycles!128 update! This is going to sound backwards, but for this event you don't want proper 'race' tires. They need heat to work, and you just won't be able to build any between the cold pavement and November air. That's part of what was giving some of us trouble indoors while others were railing it. Cheapie street tires are designed to work at lower temps. Sure, you get less grip than a race tire that's up to temp, but you get boatloads more grip than a cold race tire. If you really wanna drop some coin, Bridgestone and Sava make 12" rain tires, I think Sava also makes 10" rains... They would be the ultimate tire as they are crazy soft, and designed to grip when cold. You're going to have to order from Europe and pain through the nose for shipping to get any in time though... __________________ http://www.x386.net/TTR 2004 ST3 - 'Duckie'?!?! 2005 CRF70RR - MiniGP Weapon 2005 CRF70 - Dirt Donk 2008 Pitster Pro X4 Motard 1991 GS500E - LRRS/CCS #771

10-19-2008, 12:48 PM	#26 (permalink)
flugie 1st Gear Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: cycles 128 beverly ma. Posts: 135	Re: Cycles!128 update! if you get your tire psi properly set then you should have no issues. we used tt90 dunlops last year and they hooked up excellent. they heated up,we got 15%psi increase out of them and had 0 problems.if you dont fiddle around w/tire psi then they may not work to your satisfaction. most any tire without big swirly knobs should be fine.

10-19-2008, 03:32 PM	#28 (permalink)
Marko3 PM Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 86	Re: Cycles!128 update! I have Joey running Sava's on the KLX and stock knobbies on the ttr 50..He said he had alot of grip with the stock dirt tire..I wonder if they are having a "stock 50cc class" this year.I don't think they did last year.

10-19-2008, 05:51 PM	#29 (permalink)
flugie 1st Gear Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: cycles 128 beverly ma. Posts: 135	Re: Cycles!128 update! and you wont need knobbies to get up the hill this year! we covered the whole hill in cement mix-by hand- and it looks awsome.a couple of my guys busted their humps out there from 9am to 7pm the other day.tough job.its amazing how steep the hill really is when you try to walk up it. we molded a little kicker jump up near the top where one developed at the end of the day last year.hasnt been ridden up yet so i cant tell ya how it is.we're letting it set up really well before we give it a go.

10-20-2008, 07:27 PM	#31 (permalink)
JohnnyB 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CT Posts: 4,044	Re: Cycles!128 update! I would highly recommend run'n some sort of street tire unless you handle have'n both ends break'n loose on ya alot .

10-20-2008, 07:46 PM	#33 (permalink)
50rider340 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CT Posts: 2,146	Re: Cycles!128 update! I was thinking what if you guys reversed the track so the hill wouldnt get so torn up? Just an idea dropping down that hill would prolly be pretty cool.

10-20-2008, 08:03 PM	#34 (permalink)
JohnnyB 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CT Posts: 4,044	Re: Cycles!128 update! I don't think our PoorBoy bikes could barely climb up that other hill we go down now . No run at it . It would make for great video though .

10-20-2008, 08:17 PM	#36 (permalink)
JohnnyB 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CT Posts: 4,044	Re: Cycles!128 update! I know .., but if we were ever to run it backwards like Tom / Jay said ..., I don't think we would be able to climb up that little zig zag section we go down now with the stockers .

10-20-2008, 10:17 PM	#39 (permalink)
OLDSCHOOL 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cape Cod Ma. 02660 Posts: 7,582 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: Cycles!128 update! [quote=TankTheory[/QUOTE] Prehaps you should stay out of things and mind your own Biz... unless thats your self portrait

10-21-2008, 09:32 AM	#40 (permalink)
sweetjeep 2nd Gear Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 736	Re: Cycles!128 update! Can't run that backwards. The warehouse would run fine, though the current way is much better. The stockers would PROBABLY make it up the zig zag, but everyone would be in a world of hurt coming down the steep hill. If you didn't wildly bottom out people would get in the heat of a battle and be jumping off it left and right.. it's be all bad no matter how you cut it. What might be nice would be a plywood transition ramp for the 50s to allow them to get a good head of steam before they hit the incline. This way they won't bottom out and go all hokey by trying to generate a ton of speed on the flat then hitting a 50 degree ramp at 4 mph.

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